On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:25 -0700, Jared Hoover wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, <jp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, multi=language is very important. I have been working on > a system > for allowing this easy change; but, i am very stressed to get > many things > done- for one: getting internet installed at my new > apartment. . . > > > I'm suggesting that we target multiple languages (have it > ask at grub > > what language and in installer) and if the user is Chinese > then they get > > to a Chinese version of the website that would offer to > install skype > > and such for them. > > As for the weaknesses mentioned below, I will address these > in a latter > > email (don't worry, it wont be that long). > > On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:58 +0000, Fergus Allan wrote: > >> Who is Chinese on this group? How many people? > >> > >> Off memory about 6 years ago (maybe more) the Chinese > government started > >> a > >> project for linux. This was also part of a ploy to get > lower Windows > >> prices, but also, a serious use of linux. Lots of > governments are > >> seriously > >> looking at linux. The French police and a few others have > already > >> migrated > >> to it. (It was the same year Bill Gates visited downing > street or there > >> abouts). > >> > >> Remember there are 1.2B Chinese people, and a lot of very > good > >> programmers > >> within that community. They are already Chinese distros of > linux - but > >> I > >> cant read CJK (alright I know about 5 symbols out of a very > large > >> number). > >> > >> There are some weaknesses in linux, here is my list: > >> > >> 1: The linux community has a habit of trying to > emulate the features > >> in Windows. Its worst features. > >> > >> 2: The installation process is still poor, and very > slow compared to > >> Windows XP. > >> > >> 3: The performance is slow in a lot of respects. > >> > >> 4: Installing software is a nightmare compared to > windows. I can > >> often install small programs on windows. Linux tends to > have very large > >> dependencies. > >> > >> 5: The interdependencies in linux software is > excessive. Its the > >> biggest failure area, and I have frequently encountered > circular > >> dependencies or version incompatibilities. > >> > >> > >> I installed freebsd 4.4 some time ago. I almost fell off > my chair how > >> > > fasthttp://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/080717-F-2907C-169.JPG > >> it is. I installed 6. Its as slow as the rest. > >> > >> I don't know why the modern distros have become so slow. > Remember, > >> these > >> used to run on 486 processors. > >> > >> Something else to throw into the mix, I used to have an > Amiga 1000. > >> (Still > >> got it actually). It's power supply is 25 watts(input) and > was produced > >> around 1984. > >> > >> Even my super latest Intel 8300 laptop has a power supply > of 150W > >> (input). > >> > >> This does not even take into account improvements in > rectifying > >> electricity, > >> so the computer end would be worse. > >> > >> > >> > >> I think there needs to be a clear set of objectives. > >> > >> Sorting out the packages and dependencies would be an > excellent step, > >> but > >> given the efforts else where, I think its a difficult > problem. > >> > >> > >> Fergus > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Robert > >> O'Callahan > >> Sent: 14 August 2008 05:32 > >> To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [Precisionix-General] Name change > >> > >> Andrew asked me to join this to suggest new names for the > project. I > >> think a linux distro could distinguish itself by courting > Chinese > >> desktop users. Right now, all (generalizations are > generally accurate > >> for the Chinese) Chinese desktop users run pirated copies > of Windows. > >> While, their government's claims that they are cracking > down on piracy > >> are unlikely, I think it still is an untapped linux desktop > market. > >> Just package emule, skype, and msn (all Chinese use these > programs) > >> compatible clients along with out-of-box tor, decent CJK > fonts, and > >> SCIM/SKIM, and it would be an easy sell as superior to > Windows. This > >> is the largest untapped Linux market. There would be some > conflict > >> over being unsanctioned by their government, but this just > means our > >> distro will be distrod via emule. > >> > >> This could still be a multilingual-supporting distro, but > attracting > >> Chinese users would be an easy way to make it successful. > >> > >> I don't care much for the name PrescioNix. I suggest > Inschato, since > >> everyone who I've ever mentioned that string to has > commented how > >> catchy it is. If you guys are interested in the Chinese > tack, I > >> suggest Kuai Long (Fast Dragon). > >> > >> -Rob > > > I speak enough Chinese to get by. My girlfriend has a bachelors > degree in Chinese and she has lived in Beijing for a semester before > so she is pretty familiar with the cuture etc. If we need someone to > write documentation or a website in Chinese she would be able to do > that. > So lets just support multiple languages then? I was hoping to target multiple user groups. We can certainly work on having things ready Chinese and other languages to! and SCIM/SKIM support) we will need to see what we can do about multiple languages and about how we can fit it on a CD and such, maybe have a extra language disk? we will have to look at other Linux distros and see what most users like, and base stuff like this on it.