Good idea, but I'm jp to setup the website, maybe I will register a temporary forum @ freeforums. On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 12:09 +0000, Fergus Allan wrote: > I would suggest starting with a wiki so that the ideas can be coalesced. > > Fergus > > -----Original Message----- > From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Sorensen > Sent: 15 August 2008 02:47 > To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [Precisionix-General] Re: Name change > > > On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:25 -0700, Jared Hoover wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, <jp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yes, multi=language is very important. I have been working on > > a system > > for allowing this easy change; but, i am very stressed to get > > many things > > done- for one: getting internet installed at my new > > apartment. . . > > > > > I'm suggesting that we target multiple languages (have it > > ask at grub > > > what language and in installer) and if the user is Chinese > > then they get > > > to a Chinese version of the website that would offer to > > install skype > > > and such for them. > > > As for the weaknesses mentioned below, I will address these > > in a latter > > > email (don't worry, it wont be that long). > > > On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:58 +0000, Fergus Allan wrote: > > >> Who is Chinese on this group? How many people? > > >> > > >> Off memory about 6 years ago (maybe more) the Chinese > > government started > > >> a > > >> project for linux. This was also part of a ploy to get > > lower Windows > > >> prices, but also, a serious use of linux. Lots of > > governments are > > >> seriously > > >> looking at linux. The French police and a few others have > > already > > >> migrated > > >> to it. (It was the same year Bill Gates visited downing > > street or there > > >> abouts). > > >> > > >> Remember there are 1.2B Chinese people, and a lot of very > > good > > >> programmers > > >> within that community. They are already Chinese distros of > > linux - but > > >> I > > >> cant read CJK (alright I know about 5 symbols out of a very > > large > > >> number). > > >> > > >> There are some weaknesses in linux, here is my list: > > >> > > >> 1: The linux community has a habit of trying to > > emulate the features > > >> in Windows. Its worst features. > > >> > > >> 2: The installation process is still poor, and very > > slow compared to > > >> Windows XP. > > >> > > >> 3: The performance is slow in a lot of respects. > > >> > > >> 4: Installing software is a nightmare compared to > > windows. I can > > >> often install small programs on windows. Linux tends to > > have very large > > >> dependencies. > > >> > > >> 5: The interdependencies in linux software is > > excessive. Its the > > >> biggest failure area, and I have frequently encountered > > circular > > >> dependencies or version incompatibilities. > > >> > > >> > > >> I installed freebsd 4.4 some time ago. I almost fell off > > my chair how > > >> > > > > fasthttp://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/080717-F-2907C-169.JPG > > >> it is. I installed 6. Its as slow as the rest. > > >> > > >> I don't know why the modern distros have become so slow. > > Remember, > > >> these > > >> used to run on 486 processors. > > >> > > >> Something else to throw into the mix, I used to have an > > Amiga 1000. > > >> (Still > > >> got it actually). It's power supply is 25 watts(input) and > > was produced > > >> around 1984. > > >> > > >> Even my super latest Intel 8300 laptop has a power supply > > of 150W > > >> (input). > > >> > > >> This does not even take into account improvements in > > rectifying > > >> electricity, > > >> so the computer end would be worse. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I think there needs to be a clear set of objectives. > > >> > > >> Sorting out the packages and dependencies would be an > > excellent step, > > >> but > > >> given the efforts else where, I think its a difficult > > problem. > > >> > > >> > > >> Fergus > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > > Of Robert > > >> O'Callahan > > >> Sent: 14 August 2008 05:32 > > >> To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> Subject: [Precisionix-General] Name change > > >> > > >> Andrew asked me to join this to suggest new names for the > > project. I > > >> think a linux distro could distinguish itself by courting > > Chinese > > >> desktop users. Right now, all (generalizations are > > generally accurate > > >> for the Chinese) Chinese desktop users run pirated copies > > of Windows. > > >> While, their government's claims that they are cracking > > down on piracy > > >> are unlikely, I think it still is an untapped linux desktop > > market. > > >> Just package emule, skype, and msn (all Chinese use these > > programs) > > >> compatible clients along with out-of-box tor, decent CJK > > fonts, and > > >> SCIM/SKIM, and it would be an easy sell as superior to > > Windows. This > > >> is the largest untapped Linux market. There would be some > > conflict > > >> over being unsanctioned by their government, but this just > > means our > > >> distro will be distrod via emule. > > >> > > >> This could still be a multilingual-supporting distro, but > > attracting > > >> Chinese users would be an easy way to make it successful. > > >> > > >> I don't care much for the name PrescioNix. I suggest > > Inschato, since > > >> everyone who I've ever mentioned that string to has > > commented how > > >> catchy it is. If you guys are interested in the Chinese > > tack, I > > >> suggest Kuai Long (Fast Dragon). > > >> > > >> -Rob > > > > > > I speak enough Chinese to get by. My girlfriend has a bachelors > > degree in Chinese and she has lived in Beijing for a semester before > > so she is pretty familiar with the cuture etc. If we need someone to > > write documentation or a website in Chinese she would be able to do > > that. > > > So lets just support multiple languages then? I was hoping to target > multiple user groups. We can certainly work on having things ready > Chinese and other languages to! and SCIM/SKIM support) we will need to > see what we can do about multiple languages and about how we can fit it > on a CD and such, maybe have a extra language disk? we will have to look > at other Linux distros and see what most users like, and base stuff like > this on it. > > > >