[Precisionix-General] Re: Name change
- From: Andrew Sorensen <aos@xxxxxxx>
- To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:04:07 -0700
http://precisionix.freeforums.org/ its done!
On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:22 +0300, Taras Kostiak wrote:
> Maybe forum instead of wiki? Or both?
>
> 2008/8/17 Fergus Allan <f_w_allan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> I would suggest starting with a wiki so that the ideas can be
> coalesced.
>
> Fergus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Sorensen
> Sent: 15 August 2008 02:47
> To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Precisionix-General] Re: Name change
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:25 -0700, Jared Hoover wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, <jp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yes, multi=language is very important. I have been
> working on
> > a system
> > for allowing this easy change; but, i am very
> stressed to get
> > many things
> > done- for one: getting internet installed at my new
> > apartment. . .
> >
> > > I'm suggesting that we target multiple languages
> (have it
> > ask at grub
> > > what language and in installer) and if the user is
> Chinese
> > then they get
> > > to a Chinese version of the website that would
> offer to
> > install skype
> > > and such for them.
> > > As for the weaknesses mentioned below, I will
> address these
> > in a latter
> > > email (don't worry, it wont be that long).
> > > On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:58 +0000, Fergus Allan
> wrote:
> > >> Who is Chinese on this group? How many people?
> > >>
> > >> Off memory about 6 years ago (maybe more) the
> Chinese
> > government started
> > >> a
> > >> project for linux. This was also part of a ploy
> to get
> > lower Windows
> > >> prices, but also, a serious use of linux. Lots
> of
> > governments are
> > >> seriously
> > >> looking at linux. The French police and a few
> others have
> > already
> > >> migrated
> > >> to it. (It was the same year Bill Gates visited
> downing
> > street or there
> > >> abouts).
> > >>
> > >> Remember there are 1.2B Chinese people, and a lot
> of very
> > good
> > >> programmers
> > >> within that community. They are already Chinese
> distros of
> > linux - but
> > >> I
> > >> cant read CJK (alright I know about 5 symbols out
> of a very
> > large
> > >> number).
> > >>
> > >> There are some weaknesses in linux, here is my
> list:
> > >>
> > >> 1: The linux community has a habit of trying
> to
> > emulate the features
> > >> in Windows. Its worst features.
> > >>
> > >> 2: The installation process is still poor,
> and very
> > slow compared to
> > >> Windows XP.
> > >>
> > >> 3: The performance is slow in a lot of
> respects.
> > >>
> > >> 4: Installing software is a nightmare
> compared to
> > windows. I can
> > >> often install small programs on windows. Linux
> tends to
> > have very large
> > >> dependencies.
> > >>
> > >> 5: The interdependencies in linux software
> is
> > excessive. Its the
> > >> biggest failure area, and I have frequently
> encountered
> > circular
> > >> dependencies or version incompatibilities.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I installed freebsd 4.4 some time ago. I almost
> fell off
> > my chair how
> > >>
> >
>
> fasthttp://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/080717-F-2907C-169.JPG
> > >> it is. I installed 6. Its as slow as the rest.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know why the modern distros have become
> so slow.
> > Remember,
> > >> these
> > >> used to run on 486 processors.
> > >>
> > >> Something else to throw into the mix, I used to
> have an
> > Amiga 1000.
> > >> (Still
> > >> got it actually). It's power supply is 25
> watts(input) and
> > was produced
> > >> around 1984.
> > >>
> > >> Even my super latest Intel 8300 laptop has a
> power supply
> > of 150W
> > >> (input).
> > >>
> > >> This does not even take into account improvements
> in
> > rectifying
> > >> electricity,
> > >> so the computer end would be worse.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think there needs to be a clear set of
> objectives.
> > >>
> > >> Sorting out the packages and dependencies would
> be an
> > excellent step,
> > >> but
> > >> given the efforts else where, I think its a
> difficult
> > problem.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Fergus
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:precisionix-general-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> > Of Robert
> > >> O'Callahan
> > >> Sent: 14 August 2008 05:32
> > >> To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [Precisionix-General] Name change
> > >>
> > >> Andrew asked me to join this to suggest new names
> for the
> > project. I
> > >> think a linux distro could distinguish itself by
> courting
> > Chinese
> > >> desktop users. Right now, all (generalizations
> are
> > generally accurate
> > >> for the Chinese) Chinese desktop users run
> pirated copies
> > of Windows.
> > >> While, their government's claims that they are
> cracking
> > down on piracy
> > >> are unlikely, I think it still is an untapped
> linux desktop
> > market.
> > >> Just package emule, skype, and msn (all Chinese
> use these
> > programs）
> > >> compatible clients along with out-of-box tor,
> decent CJK
> > fonts, and
> > >> SCIM/SKIM, and it would be an easy sell as
> superior to
> > Windows. This
> > >> is the largest untapped Linux market. There
> would be some
> > conflict
> > >> over being unsanctioned by their government, but
> this just
> > means our
> > >> distro will be distrod via emule.
> > >>
> > >> This could still be a multilingual-supporting
> distro, but
> > attracting
> > >> Chinese users would be an easy way to make it
> successful.
> > >>
> > >> I don't care much for the name PrescioNix. I
> suggest
> > Inschato, since
> > >> everyone who I've ever mentioned that string to
> has
> > commented how
> > >> catchy it is. If you guys are interested in the
> Chinese
> > tack, I
> > >> suggest Kuai Long (Fast Dragon).
> > >>
> > >> -Rob
> >
> >
> > I speak enough Chinese to get by. My girlfriend has a
> bachelors
> > degree in Chinese and she has lived in Beijing for a
> semester before
> > so she is pretty familiar with the cuture etc. If we need
> someone to
> > write documentation or a website in Chinese she would be
> able to do
> > that.
> >
> So lets just support multiple languages then? I was hoping to
> target
> multiple user groups. We can certainly work on having things
> ready
> Chinese and other languages to! and SCIM/SKIM support) we
> will need to
> see what we can do about multiple languages and about how we
> can fit it
> on a CD and such, maybe have a extra language disk? we will
> have to look
> at other Linux distros and see what most users like, and base
> stuff like
> this on it.
>
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