[opendtv] Re: Is 'Fair Use' in Peril?
- From: Jarrett Vance <jarrettv@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:44:46 -0600
>Specifically, I do not feel there is any implied contract by
>consumers to watch the ads.
I agree and believe that despite the capability to all together skip
or ignore commercials on time shifted programming, OTA and ad-assisted
programming will survive with good programming that people will want
to watch live because of the fact that it is entertaining.
Consider for a second that your a huge fan of CSI. Now sometimes you
won't be able to watch the show live so you may record it and watch it
later. Your penalty for not watching the show live is that you really
wanted to know why Grissom was in jail but you didn't find out as soon
as you could have. Your reward for not watching the show live is that
you get no commercial interruptions.
If fair use does goto hell and this doesn't work they will probably
just have Grissom blatently drink Diet Chocolate Cherry flavored Coke
during every show (have you seen NCIS?).
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 19:33:09 -0500, Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
> > If OTA and ad-assisted programming is truly on the way
> > out, I'm sure it will die a natural death. This doesn't
> > mean that govt should look the other way when folks out
> > there unfairly help the industry in its demise. The
> > govt should not be in bed with umbillical service
> > providers.
>
> I guess the operative word here is 'unfairly'. I do not feel the Govt
> is necessarily in bed with anyone just for failing to pass special
> interest legislation. And I do not see using technology to fast foward
> or skip over commercials and less fair than using a spam filter on my
> email. Specifically, I do not feel there is any implied contract by
> consumers to watch the ads. I have been skipping over them for years.
>
> The fact that a fast (60x) forward command like the Tivo is sufficient
> for me is not really a reason I'd feel comfortable with legislation
> saying I cannot legally do anything else. This is especially true when
> those sorts of efforts seem to come with certification and robustness
> requirements these days that can be used (like the BF or macrovision) in
> restraint of trade.
>
> - Tom
>
>
>
>
> > Tom Barry wrote:
> >
> > I had written:
> >
> >>>If Congress allowed CE manufacturers to completely
> >>>hide ads, then Congress would be unfairly doing the
> >>>bidding of the umbillical services companies. Because,
> >>>of course, advertizers would put less and less money
> >>>into TV shows as recording devices become more common.
> >>>Which, for FTA TV especially, would be the kiss of
> >>>death.
> >>
> >>Sorry, but that does not compute. Most anything is
> >>allowed just by the default action of Congress not
> >>having done anything about it yet. And rightly so.
> >
> >
> > I agree with the general principle of anything goes
> > unless forbidden.
> >
> > I assume, then, that the CE industry should also be
> > allowed to market boxes that I can buy openly, allowing
> > me to receive cable and DBS, including premium programs,
> > without having to pay the cable and DBS companies?
> >
> >
> >>Now obviously, if Congress were to allow the
> >>manufacture of automobiles the buggy whip
> >>manufacturers might suffer a bit.
> >
> >
> > Let's use this example, although analogies don't often
> > work well.
> >
> > We will agree that the buggy whip lost its role in the
> > marketplace when cars replaced horses and carts. But
> > does that mean that looting of buggy whip stores should
> > have been allowed? After all, Craig would say, buggy
> > whips were on the way out regardless.
> >
> > If OTA and ad-assisted programming is truly on the way
> > out, I'm sure it will die a natural death. This doesn't
> > mean that govt should look the other way when folks out
> > there unfairly help the industry in its demise. The
> > govt should not be in bed with umbillical service
> > providers.
> >
> > Bert
> >
> >
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