One of the receivers, A, the better one BTW IMO ATM (at the moment), is also the one that does not have the dbu listed dynamically. In fact I could not get anything but 100%. So I decided to move it from the balcony where it received all channels while pointed at the ESB directly. I wanted to find out if I could get the signal indicator below 100%. So I took it off the balcony into the apartment and placed it on a coffee table facing somewhere 30% off the ESB. No difference was discerned. Then I took it across the apartment and placed in on the floor near the front door. No difference. Then outside in the hall standing up facing the wall. No difference. Then laying on the floor face down. No difference. Then in a new location laying on the floor face down. Lost 53. Now it is in a closed closet near the front door where 53 shows 100 and plays so. I used to have to go to the back bedroom and used a cut in channel yagi to get intermittent reception from the World Trade Center so this is a lot better. In fact I don't believe it. I will keep playing with it and will switch cards. Bob Miller Tom Barry wrote: >John Willkie wrote: > > >>you're off in fairy land, again, Tom. >> >>If there was litigation, it would come down to what Bob knew, not what Mr >>Tawil knew and when he knew it. Bob would have to prove that Mr. Tawil did >>fraudulent work. Lacking that, he loses. Fraud is quite easy to say, but >>very difficult to prove. Negligence is another matter; that's why the term >>"negligence suit" is bandied about. >> >> >> >You are incorrect, though I'll avoid making more creative slurs in >kind. > >I do not know whether fraud could be proven in this case or not. > >But I thought we were talking about defending a possible liable >suit, not a criminal fraud trial. It is only the aspersions of >fraud that would be at question. Bob, or whoever, would only have >to prove he had good reason for believing his statements true, or >alternately of course prove they really were true. > >Both attempts would be publicly very interesting and unlikely to >be pursued in court. > >But I would probably enjoy watching it. ;-) > >- Tom > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.