that "europe" has implemented widescreen signalling has just a bit to do with the fact that it's part of the DVB spec, and there are test bitstreams that one can test against. Not -- yet -- in ATSC world, although there is ongoing work to see if something like that can be dome here. However, John, there is much functionality in the MPEG-2 advanced format description and bar data, well beyond the simple set of widescreen ratios that you list below. The real issue, to me, appears to be how quickly receivers adapt to changes in the descriptor. Tests that I recently heard about -- performed in Australia using COFDM -- placed the lag time at 8 frames or more. Where did I hear about such tests? Why, the PSIP list that I maintain. We had a three-continent discussion on the how and why of dynamically changing aspect ratios. Something un-European -- to a good extent -- the issue of a different aspect ratio in interstitial programming. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Shutt" <shuttj@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: FTC's Lost Rule: Screen Measurement > Of course, the Europeans have implemented Widescreen Signaling in their > widescreen sets and analog broadcasts, whereas the United States has not. > Widescreen signaling can be used to mark the content as 4:3, 14:9 letterbox > within 4:3, 16:9 letterbox within 4:3, or 16:9 anamorphic. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Until continuous zoom becomes available, expect to see > > plenty of examples of black bars all around when using > > oddball display aspect ratios, or putting up with > > unnecessary distortion. Not to worry, though. Other > > than possibly 16:10 in plasma panels, you won't find a lot > > of weird ratios out on store shelves anyway. > > > > Bert > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.