[ncolug] Re: annual distro marathon
- From: Chuck <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:25:58 -0400
Once again, Mike, you are absolutely correct! Homogenous computing
hurts us in so many ways. Every year that I taught Linux at NC State
there was at least one person who got frustrated because I refused to
teach the interface; understanding how the bloody thing works is HUGE!
It is one of the first steps towards self-help.
On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 16:17 -0400, M. Knisely wrote:
> To get back to the distro discussion, my house has run Linux since
> before my 8 year old was born. She's never used a Windows machine
> that I own, but when she got to school she picked up and now teaches
> the teachers how to better use their systems. She has an
> understanding of what the machine needs to do, not where to click.
> So, if any of you out there are concerned about the impact it will
> have on your children, not running windows.... DON'T WORRY. You're
> showing them options.
>
>
> Also, my main machines are running Ubuntu's Unity. The laptop I built
> for my wife runs Mint's Cinnamon interface; I have an HP500 tablet
> running Mate. Every one of my girls are able to work their way
> through any of the interfaces to do what they need. I'm not looking
> for one distro... I use the different experiences for teaching my
> family to use a computer, not just an interface. They're learning to
> poke around and experience things. Homogeneous solutions handicap us,
> I think.
>
>
> Mike K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Chuck <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree. I use the FOSS alternatives whereever I can. The
> one issue I
> create for myself is my love for AMD, which typically brings
> along ATI
> video hardware, which generally forces one to byte the
> non-FOSS
> bullet...
>
> As I move more things back onto my server I have every
> intention of
> removing stuff like DropBox and other "cloud"-based solutions
> to one
> where I control my data...
>
> Thanks for sharing your perspective! I certainly do love
> hearing about
> the ways that others solve similar delemas.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Tue, 2013-05-28 at 15:48 -0400, M. Knisely wrote:
> > Because you're giving in... If you give in to running
> proprietary code
> > you're not going to scratch that itch and create your own
> FOSS app for
> > the community or encourage others to do it for you.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, that's the best I got.
> >
> >
> > I've long since given up on running totally FOSS, though
> when I have
> > the option I do and I encourage those that write the code I
> use.
> >
> >
> > I run Adobe's Flash, Oracle's Virtualbox with extentions,
> Microsoft's
> > Skype, Cisco's AnyConnect, Sonicwall's NetExtender, and
> sever other
> > apps that are outside the "free" realm. For me, I try to
> avoid
> > walking outside my package manager, but that's as far
> limited I allow
> > my box to be.
> >
> >
> > When FOSS options present themselves, I'm quick to drop my
> proprietary
> > solution for the FOSS alternative. I've pretty much moved
> everything
> > off of DropBox to my servers running OwnCloud. I've also
> ditched
> > NoMachine in favor of X2Go. So for me, it's an ebb and
> flow.
> >
> >
> > In regards to hardware, I try to buy what I know supports
> Linux. I
> > try to stick with Intel video and wireless for that reason.
> Until
> > recently when the FOSS drivers got better, whenever I
> inherited a
> > Broadcom wireless laptop, I'd swap it out with a FOSS
> friendly one.
> > I've also pulled dedicated video cards from machines and
> ran the
> > integrated video. I don't do anything that requires high
> end graphics
> > anyway.
> >
> >
> > Mike K.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Chuck
> <cstickelman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I, for one, have no problem installing software that
> makes my
> > Debian
> > system un-DFSG. I've never seen that as a big
> disadvantage.
> > There's
> > nothing that I could do before, that I can't do
> after.
> >
> > Can anyone tell my why "un-DFSG'ing" a Debian box is
> a bad
> > thing?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 11:53 -0400, Mike wrote:
> > > On 05/21/2013 09:46 PM, Silas Lang wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Debian: very tempting, but missed some hardware
> and a bit
> > slow
> > > >
> > >
> > > Prepare to un DFSG your debian box. It's probably
> appears
> > slow due to
> > > the free Nvidia driver. Add "non-free" to your
> main
> > repository in
> > > sources.lst, apt-get update, apt-get install
> > firmware-linux-nonfree,
> > > reboot. Enjoy the life of proprietary video
> drivers. This
> > may also
> > > account for you other non detected hardware.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
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