Re: [MoAccess] new motif
- From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:45:41 -0400
If someone gave me a K2661, I don't know what I'd do with it at this point. I
mean, you can really program some cool sounds with it, but for sequencing? KDFX
seems so lame now. A four bus effects system that shares processing? Yes, I'll
take a mastering compressor on the main bus, a reverb one an aux bus, a delay
on another, oops, gotta use the cheap delay cause running low on processor
allocation units, and now a flanger for the...oops, out of processor. But I
haven't put compression on the drums or phaser on the rhodes yet! Urgh!
And, the thing is, that was pretty bomb for the mid 90's. We just used to
assume we wouldn't really be mixing on our workstation, other than levels and
pan, with maybe a touch of master reverb and chorus. Now, effects units are all
over the place, EQs are at every stage, from synth elements, to entire voices,
to aux buses, to a master EQ and multiband compressor. Can't go back.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:12 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
I never said I am doing it right away. I have some nord keyboards I need to buy
for my endorsement. Anybody want to buy a Kurzweil k2661 or a nord rack
2 or a novation nova or a useaudio plugiator? They are all accessible. I won't
sell you the m3 or radias, because Korg sucks.
--
Damon Fibraio
screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio Find
me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio personal music site:
http://www.keyboardguy.com.
Band web site: Days Before Tomorrow, http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com
-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of clarence griffin
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:00 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
lol, you know it.
My only issue with the new motif is the cost of the memory. that's crazy!
too much money to do what the current one should have been doing. not enough of
an upgrade for the cost. I just don't think I will be doing it right away,
maybe later. I more than likely will own one though, because I have had all the
other ones before.
I must keep the legacy going.
GF
On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:
> Lucky me.
>
> --
> Damon Fibraio
> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype:
> dfibraio Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio
> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com.
> Band web site: Days Before Tomorrow, http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of clarence griffin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:51 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>
> Because you are damon, and I don't pick with Gord like I do you. lol.
>
> GF
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:
>
>> There's no struggle. Besides, I am selling off most everything else I
own.
>> And why am I singled out here when Gord already said he was buying it?
>> Jealous, GF? lol
>>
>> --
>> Damon Fibraio
>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype:
>> dfibraio Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio
>> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com.
>> Band web site: Days Before Tomorrow,
>> http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of clarence griffin
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:48 PM
>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>
>> uh, here's the part where Damon struggles to justify buying yet
>> another keyboard. lol.
>> I knew it was coming.
>>
>> GF
>>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:
>>
>>> I'm probably going to do the same. The band I am in, we use samples
quite
>> a
>>> bit, and the not having to wait for an all file to load every time
>>> will immensely help in situations where you ave 15 minutes to set up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Damon Fibraio
>>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype:
dfibraio
>>> Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio personal
>>> music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com.
>>> Band web site: Days Before Tomorrow,
>>> http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:51 PM
>>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>>
>>> Oh sure, there are always ways around stuff. I will probably end
>>> up getting the new motif when it comes out so that I can use custom
>>> samples
>>> live without having to wait forever to load them.
>>> Gord
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>>
>>>
>>> If you need pres, they expect you to get an external box.
>>>
>>> Actually, a box like the VoiceLive 2 would be a spectacular
>>> front-end to
>> the
>>>
>>> Motif. You sing in to that, it cleans your vocals up, does
>>> auto-tune,
> does
>>
>>> harmonies, etc, then feeds at line level in to the Motif. On the
>>> Motif,
>> the
>>> mixing settings in performance or the sequencer modes can treat the
input
>
>>> jacks like any other part. So, you can have that part set to how
>>> ever
>> you'd
>>> like your vocals mixed for that song. You could send MIDI out from
>>> the
>> Motif
>>>
>>> in to the VL2 in order to control the harmonies. The VL2 is already
>>> a stomp-box type design, so you can put it under your keyboard
>>> stand, and
>> use
>>> your feet to trigger the modes. Almost makes me want to perform live.
>>>
>>> The portamento isn't exactly broken. It just doesn't work the way
>>> that
we
>
>>> want. It works perfectly for sampled instruments. If you're playing
>>> C3,
>> then
>>>
>>> glide to C4, the Motif can't just speed up the sample on C3 to make
>>> it
>> have
>>> C4 pitch (would sound way too pitch stretched). So, when you press a
>>> new
>>> key, before starting the glide, the Motif switches the sample to the
>> sample
>>> of the new key. So, if you're playing C3, then glide to C4, the Motif
>> first
>>> switches to the sample for C4, then glides up to it. This makes real
>>> instrument glides sound great! For analog-type stuff, though, since the
>>> sample always changes when you start a new glide, there is a click. We
>>> talked about a setting that could be used to turn this sample-switching
>>> behavior off for an element or entire voice. That would require adding a
>> new
>>>
>>> parameter to a voice's settings, though, and that would break the
current
>
>>> voice format. That's why they say that it will need to wait until the
>> engine
>>>
>>> is changed, and they'll be breaking the format, anyway.
>>>
>>> You can record multiple tracks of audio. You do that with sampling,
using
>
>>> the sample+note mode. When you do that, the Motif samples, and, when
>> you're
>>> finished, it inserts the note event to trigger that sample at the right
>>> moment. This isn't exactly hard disk recording, but you can record to
>>> several tracks (which will be using sampling voices), and each sampling
>>> voice can store up to 256 takes. You can even stack takes on a single
> key.
>>
>>> You can record background vocals on C3, and keep overdubbing on to that
>> key
>>> as much as you want, until you run out of takes.
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>
>>> On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:28 PM
>>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>>
>>> Yeah, while the addition of flash memory is a nice touch, I was hoping
>> there
>>>
>>> would be some additional features, such as decent mic pres with xlr
> inputs
>>
>>> and phantom power, the ability to record multiple audio tracks to disk,
>> and
>>> of course a fix for the problem with portamento on mono instruments.
>> We'll
>>> just have to see if it's worth upgrading. It doesn't seem as though the
>>> hardware is changing much.
>>> Gord
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Damon Fibraio" <dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>>
>>>
>>>> The motif xf is really adding some new sounds based on new wave rom
>>>> which just expands on the xs current wave rom, and offers a flash
>>>> memory option to permanently load samples. Some fixes for the xf are
>>>> coming to the xs in an os update. That's really about it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Damon Fibraio
>>>> screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype:
>>>> dfibraio Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio
>>>> personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com.
>>>> Band web site: Days Before Tomorrow, http://www.daysbeforetomorrow.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Blake Hardin
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:27 AM
>>>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] new motif
>>>>
>>>> Hi, yeah yamaha is coming out with a motif fx in about 6 months i
>>>> believe. Idk how different its going to be than the xs though besides
>>>> allot more sounds.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/10, Omar Binno <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious: has there been any talk at all of a new motif being
>>>>> released next year? I figured it's been about 4 years since the xs,
>>>>> so maybe yamaha is planning something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>> Website: www.bigoproductions.net
>>>>> AIM: LOD1116
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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