[lit-ideas] Re: Mike -- Not Real Astute
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:20:35 +0100
I think, Andreas, Lawrence's point is that the CIA is not allowed
even to spy on US citizens (within the US, anyway; I think it
can't operate within the US) let alone behave in the US as it has
elsewhere; and that this is hampering the intra-US GWOT, and
should be changed.
(I thought it was going to be changed.)
Here, MI5 spies on us (with the police Special Branch) and MI6
(SIS) spies on you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mike -- Not Real Astute
> Lawrence, can you read and understand what I wrote? You claim
the US doesn't
> understand terrorism, and I point out that the US indeed
carried out
> terrorist wars in Nicaragua, Honduars, and Afghanistan.
>
> But you simply don't remember that and you don't realize what
happened
> there. You really don't want to know the truth.
>
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:46 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mike -- Not Real Astute
>
>
> Yes, but that's a different subject, Andreas: the fantastic
reality you,
> Ward Churchill and Noam Chomsky know versus the reality the
that most of the
> rest of us know. Yes, I know there are good arguments for
UFOs, Lemuria,
> Atlantis and the Hollow Earth, and they are entertaining from
time to time,
> and while I would deny no man his hobby, or the horse he came
in on, I'll
> just leave those matters to you, Ward & Noam.
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> ------------Original Message------------
> From: "Andreas Ramos" <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, May-7-2007 9:12 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Mike -- Not Real Astute
> From: "Lawrence Helm"
>
> > Our American problem is that we have no idea how to fight an
enemy who
> > engages in Fifth Column-type activities.
>
> Nonsense. The USA engages in terrorism. The CIA tortured and
terrorized in
> Honduras. The anti-Castro Cuban terrorists who blew up an
airliner are
> living in Miami. The USA launched and operated a terrorist war
against the
> Soviets in Afghanistan, killing tens of thousands with
"Fifth-column-type
> activities."
>
> > We have never figured that one out.
>
> Oh, we've figured that one out quite well. Just download the
CIA's manual on
> torture and terrorism.
>
> > Maybe what we need is a special congressional committee to
examine such
> > people. The House could do it. We could call it "The House
UnAmarican
> > Activities Committee," and ask such questions as "are you
now, or have you
> > ever been a Terrorist," and are you now or have you ever
supported
> > terrorism." That should take care of it.
>
> Lawrence himself will be the first to plead guilty. Lawrence
applauded
> Jihadi terrorists several months ago when we found out that the
Bush White
> House is supporting Sunni Jihadi terrorists to harass Iran. He
called them
> "our allies". Yes, Lawrence is now supporting and has supported
terrorists.
>
> > Just get him to admit it and we'll lock him up.
>
> Really?
>
> Lawrence, this is the problem with the USA: it is incapable of
seeing
> itself. It talks endlessly of high principles, but the reality
is quite
> different, and it is so enamoured of the principles that it
won't admit the
> reality.
>
> yrs,
> andreas
> www.andreas.com
>
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