[lit-ideas] Re: Mike -- Not Real Astute

  • From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 10:10:27 -0500

I do hate to disappoint you, Lawrence, but I did indeed read the whole article. 
 I didn't respond to your challenge because I was too busy Europeanizing my 
neighbors with Leftist-Pacifist ideology.  Sorry.  

As to the right to sell guns to terrorist suspects, let me ask you, don't you 
find it funny that by law you can be kept from flying on a plane because your 
name is on a list of suspected terrorists?  Don't you find it hilarious that 
you can be sent to prison for life for giving a loan to someone suspected of 
being a terrorist?  Or for hiring someone who is suspected of being a 
terrorist?  Don't you find it marvelously droll that you can be disappeared and 
sent to a secret prison and tortured because someone suspects you of being a 
terrorist?    But don't worry, it's still OK to sell a gun to a terrorist 
suspect and the good old NRA is determined to protect that right.  

Mike Geary
Memphis




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:59 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Mike -- Not Real Astute


  What you say might be true if you like Mike, only read the headlines and not 
the whole article.  Notice that I asked Mike for the reasons the NRA took the 
position they did and that he never answered.  That should have been a clue for 
the astute.

  I looked up the article on CNN:  
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/04/nra.terror.ap/index.html?eref=rss_us 

  Since the Leftist-Pacifist position afflicts its holders with the inability 
to read long articles, here are a couple of brief paragraphs from the CNN 
article: 
  'In a letter this week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, NRA executive 
director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, 
D-New Jersey, "would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on 
mere 'suspicions' of a terrorist threat.  As many of our friends in law 
enforcement have rightly pointed out, the word 'suspect' has no legal meaning, 
particularly when it comes to denying constitutional liberties," Cox wrote.'

  I was hoping Mike would respond.  I believe he was one of those who was 
outraged that the U.S. would infringe suspected terrorists first amendment 
rights by tapping their phones.  I was hoping to ask him why he was outraged 
over the infringement of the First Amendment Right but not over the 
infringement of the Second.  

  Lest anyone jump to the wrong conclusion about my own position, I would 
restrict both first & second amendment rights of those on the Terrorist Watch 
list.  

  Lawrence




  ------------Original Message------------
  From: "JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx Krueger" <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Date: Sat, May-5-2007 7:35 PM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: NRA -- Not Real Astute
  I find this very peculiar -- the NRA is aligned, typically, with the 
political party which has seen fit to wrench huge swaths of constitutional 
liberties and constitutional rights from American citizens carte blanche ...  
and yet it defends the notion that suspected terrorists should be allowed to 
arm themselves. 

  Unreal.  Absolutely Mad Hatter Alice down the Rabbit Hole Humpty Dumpty 
Jabberwocky unreal.  Surreal.  Impossible to believe.

  Julie Krueger


  On 5/5/07, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 
    > My favourite bit: 
    >
    > '"As many of our friends in law enforcement have rightly pointed out, the
    > word 'suspect' has no legal meaning, particularly when it comes to denying
    > constitutional liberties," NRA executive director Chris Cox wrote.' 

    Mr. Cox said that he would immediately begin a campaign to have the prison
    at Guantanamo Bay shut down.

    Robert Paul


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