[lit-ideas] Re: Ask the Ayatollah

  • From: Chris Bruce <bruce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 11:23:16 +0200

On 5. Okt 2006, at 20:26, Eric Yost wrote:

… Deliberate masturbation during the month of Ramadan renders a fast invalid, Iranian Supreme Leader Sayyid Ali Khameini has ruled.

Is the phrase 'deliberate masturbation' not pleonastic? My dictionary defines 'masturbate' as follows: 'to stimulate the genital organs (of oneself or another) to achieve sexual pleasure'. (It seems to follow that if one has a particular intent- i.e., 'to achieve sexual pleasure' - then one's actions are deliberate.)

Other questions arise:

If one 'stimulates the genital organs of another to achieve sexual pleasure (for the other)' is one's own fast rendered invalid, or that of the other? If one 'stimulates the genital organs of another to achieve sexual pleasure for oneself (but not for the other)' whose fast is then rendered invalid? If one has one's sexual organs stimulated by another in order to achieve sexual pleasure (whether for one or another) without deliberately requesting or condoning such stimulation, what then? And what of sexual pleasure achieved without stimulation of the sexual organs (of either oneself or another)? Or are all erogenous zones or fetishes by definition 'extensions' of the sexual organs? (E.g., must one with a rubber fetish wash dishes during Ramadan bare-handed? And what if one has a rubber *and* a soap-suds-on-naked-flesh fetish?)

Wait a minute - I get it! Although all this questioning may be perhaps intitally stimulating (in which case, there goes one's 'fast validity' - fast!), the mire of semantic and clinical details ultimately turns one off. Clever fellows, those ayatollahs ….

Chris Bruce
Kiel, Germany

DISCLAIMER: One feels obliged to assure the Lit-Ideas readership that the pronouns 'one' and 'another' are here used 'impersonally' and any correspondence between the contents of the above posting and the activities or proclivities of actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental (i.e., *not* deliberate).

(One hopes that this disclaimer should leave the validitiy of a few fasts intact. On the other, er, hand, should one - or another - find that not to be the case, one - or another - can be reached in the usual fashion ….)


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