Except that many implications are being made, and you are allowing them to be made unchecked. It is clear, just from looking through the signatures so far, that people are under the impression that Freedom Scientific is trying to shut down Serotek. Neither you nor Jeff has done anything to dispel this misconception because, I submit, it fuels anger and makes people more likely to support your petition. This, I also submit, is very irresponsible of you, and is already enough to discredit the petition, which I will never sign. Freedom Scientific maintains, and I see no reason to doubt them, that they have looked for an out-of-court agreement for years, and that Serotek has refused to cooperate. All Freedom wants is for Serotek to change the name of the product, they do not wish the product to be eliminated. By not making this clear and not only allowing but encouraging the misconception (don't try to tell me that saveserotek.org isn't misleading in this respect) you and Jeff discredit both yourselves and any other Access-technology enterprises you claim to represent, even if you try to distance your blogs and your petition from those other endeavors.
Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 21 May 2007, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
Hello John, Don't you feel it is worth all our minute or so it takes to sign a basic petition that simply asks FS to stop and states nothing more than that? Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing! Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ramsey" <stephnjohnny211@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: RE: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation <yawn> hey guys, none of us are going to resolve this in our respective desires, so why don't we just wait and see what wisdom the court employs in resolving the matter. Take care, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:45 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation I think the case is moot, because freedomscientific, again this is one word, isn't using the name freedom for anything but its company. It's like how eskillator is now a thing and no longer a brand name. Freedomscientific doesn't use the name freedom in any of their product lines, and the company who makes freedombox doesn't use freedom in their company name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek CorporationLOL, Allen. FS and its legal staff probably don't really think it's confusing anybody at the moment, either. This is a fairly normal business practice, to file suit just as a sort of prophylactic preemption. Like certain wars that will go unnamed. Before filing the complaint, I'm sure the FS lawyers exchanged some correspondence and a few phone calls with the other company's lawyers, maybe over a period of many months, trying to intimidate them into giving up the use of the word "Freedom" in their product name. Only when the other company resisted and things were ar perceived to be at an impasse would the FS legal team proceeded with the suit. The conflict needn't strike you or me as being very realistic. The FS hope is just to get it so no one in the adaptive tech industry except for them uses the word Freedom for anything, leaving it referring only to their company whenever someone hears it or reads it. It's like an Alpha male dog marking out territory. Just a matter of course. Just business, as they say. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation for me, it is not confusing at all, at least up to this moment. Warmest Regards, Allan Wong From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx> MessageGood evening, I know very little about trademark infringment in the United States. However, I find it difficult to believe that a significant number of persons are confused between "Freedom Scientific's JAWS", and "Serotech's Freedom Box". Is this really confusing people? Everett ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Shandrow To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation Hello John, Serotek provides alternative technology for the blind, some of which does compete with the JAWS screen reader sold by Freedom Scientific. Their System Access screen reader is relatively new to the field, but their FreedomBox Network has been around since 2000. FreedomBox Network is essentially an online service similar to AOL. In fact, many of us refer to the FreedomBox Network as AOL for the blind. System Access and their newer remote access technologies provide completely mobile computer access to virtually any system, as well as potentially new employment opportunities for blind people who must have remote access to other computers. Freedom Scientific is suing Serotek over the use of the term "FreedomBox". Please feel free to read http://www.blindaccessjournal.com and http://www.thedesertskies.com as well as do Google searches, before deciding whether or not you will sign onto the petition. Thanks. Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing! Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ramsey To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation What is the lawsuit about? I have no idea who this other company is or what they provide, so I am totally lost. Take care, John -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:20 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation An online petition is being circulated to everyone in the assistive technology industry and the blind community for the purpose of collecting signatures showing support for the concept that Freedom Scientific, Inc. should cease their lawsuit against Serotek Corporation. May 20, 2007 -- We at the Blind Access Journal call upon everyone in the assistive technology industry and the blind community to sign the Save Serotek Petition found at http://www.saveserotek.org asking Freedom Scientific, Inc. to cease their trademark infringement lawsuit against Serotek Corporation. After allowing sufficient time to collect a significant number of signatures, the signed petition will be sent, via certified mail, to the Board of Directors of Freedom Scientific, Inc. We invite redistribution of this press release to all interested parties, post it on blogs, discuss it on podcasts and insure its wide distribution to all independent and mainstream media outlets. E-mail, MSN Windows Live Messenger, Skype and telephone queries are welcome from all interested in this vital effort. We thank you in advance for your support. Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing! Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by another person. 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