Might I suggest Bruce that you wait to hear Serotek's position on this? Also, all we are asking is that they not persue this and focus money on working on their product. There is nothing wrong with that from a consumer perspective. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:03 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation But I strongly suggest that there is public expression of same, which is why I have called you on it. Even the domain name, saveserotek.org, is very leading. the grounds for my accusation are sound, and since you are putting forth these leading petitions and so forth publicly, they are open to public criticism from those of us who believe they should be publicly criticized. You claim to be an accessibility evangelist. Then be prepared for the same type of scrutiny any other evangelist needs to be prepared for as through life they evangelize along. Bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 21 May 2007, Darrell Shandrow wrote: > Hello Bruce, > > We do not censor comments on our petition. Sorry. That would not be > appropriate. People who sign the petition are free to say anything > they like, so long as it does not contain any abusive language or > otherwise anything that a reasonable person would not consider "family safe". > > As we are sentient human beings, we have opinions, some of which we > have publicly posted from time to time. We have encouraged everyone > to do their research and, only if they agree with the petition, then > sign it. The petition statement also does not express any opinion > other than that the authors believe Freedom Scientific should stop the > lawsuit. Period. End of story. > > On a more personal note, Bruce, I feel it is unfair for you or anyone > else to attach impure motives to this effort when there is no such > intent or public demonstration of same. > > > Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist Visit > http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing! > Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by > another person. > Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: > http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality > telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against > Serotek Corporation > > > Except that many implications are being made, and you are allowing > them to be made unchecked. It is clear, just from looking through the > signatures so far, that people are under the impression that Freedom > Scientific is trying to shut down Serotek. Neither you nor Jeff has > done anything to dispel this misconception because, I submit, it fuels > anger and makes people more likely to support your petition. This, I > also submit, is very irresponsible of you, and is already enough to > discredit the petition, which I will never sign. Freedom Scientific > maintains, and I see no reason to doubt them, that they have looked > for an out-of-court agreement for years, and that Serotek has refused > to cooperate. All Freedom wants is for Serotek to change the name of > the product, they do not wish the product to be eliminated. By not > making this clear and not only allowing but encouraging the > misconception (don't try to tell me that saveserotek.org isn't > misleading in this respect) you and Jeff discredit both yourselves and > any other Access-technology enterprises you claim to represent, even > if you try to distance your blogs and your petition from those other endeavors. > > Bruce > > -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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