Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek Corporation

  • From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:52:02 -0700

Hello Bruce,

We do not censor comments on our petition.  Sorry.  That would not be 
appropriate.  People who sign the petition are free to say anything they 
like, so long as it does not contain any abusive language or otherwise 
anything that a reasonable person would not consider "family safe".

As we are sentient human beings, we have opinions, some of which we have 
publicly posted from time to time.  We have encouraged everyone to do their 
research and, only if they agree with the petition, then sign it.  The 
petition statement also does not express any opinion other than that the 
authors believe Freedom Scientific should stop the lawsuit.  Period.  End of 
story.

On a more personal note, Bruce, I feel it is unfair for you or anyone else 
to attach impure motives to this effort when there is no such intent or 
public demonstration of same.


Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing!
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek 
Corporation


Except that many implications are being made, and you are allowing them to
be made unchecked. It is clear, just from looking through the signatures
so far, that people are under the impression that Freedom Scientific is
trying to shut down Serotek. Neither you nor Jeff has done anything to
dispel this misconception because, I submit, it fuels anger and makes
people more likely to support your petition. This, I also submit, is very
irresponsible of you, and is already enough to discredit the petition,
which I will never sign. Freedom Scientific maintains, and I see no reason
to doubt them, that they have looked for an out-of-court agreement for
years, and that Serotek has refused to cooperate. All Freedom wants is for
Serotek to change the name of the product, they do not wish the product to
be eliminated. By not making this clear and not only allowing but
encouraging the misconception (don't try to tell me that saveserotek.org
isn't misleading in this respect) you and Jeff discredit both yourselves
and any other Access-technology enterprises you claim to represent, even
if you try to distance your blogs and your petition from those other
endeavors.

Bruce

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On Mon, 21 May 2007, Darrell Shandrow wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> Don't you feel it is worth all our minute or so it takes to sign a basic
> petition that simply asks FS to stop and states nothing more than that?
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop suing!
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Ramsey" <stephnjohnny211@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:11 PM
> Subject: RE: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against 
> Serotek
> Corporation
>
>
> <yawn> hey guys, none of us are going to resolve this in our respective
> desires, so why don't we just wait and see what wisdom the court employs 
> in
> resolving the matter.
> Take care,
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Sean McMahon
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:45 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against 
> Serotek
> Corporation
>
>
> I think the case is moot, because freedomscientific, again this is one 
> word,
>
> isn't using the name freedom for anything but its company.  It's like how
> eskillator is now a thing and no longer a brand name.  Freedomscientific
> doesn't
> use the name freedom in any of their product lines, and the company who
> makes
> freedombox doesn't use freedom in their company name.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against 
> Serotek
> Corporation
>
>
>> LOL, Allen. FS and its legal staff probably don't really think it's
>> confusing anybody at the moment, either. This is a fairly normal
>> business practice, to file suit just as a sort of prophylactic
>> preemption. Like certain wars that will go unnamed. Before filing the
>> complaint, I'm sure the FS lawyers exchanged some correspondence and a
>> few phone calls with the other company's lawyers, maybe over a period
>> of many months, trying to intimidate them into giving up the use of
>> the word "Freedom" in their product name. Only when the other company
>> resisted and things were ar perceived to be at an impasse would the FS
>> legal team proceeded with the suit. The conflict needn't strike you or
>> me as being very realistic. The FS hope is just to get it so no one in
>> the adaptive tech industry except for them uses the word Freedom for
>> anything, leaving it referring only to their company whenever someone
>> hears it or reads it. It's like an Alpha male dog marking out
>> territory. Just a matter of course. Just business, as they say.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Allan Wong" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:53 PM
>> Subject: FreedomScientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek
>> Corporation
>>
>>
>> for me, it is not confusing at all, at least up to this moment.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Allan Wong
>> From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>> MessageGood evening,
>>
>> I know very little about trademark infringment in the United States.
>> However, I find it difficult to believe that a significant number of
>> persons are confused between "Freedom Scientific's JAWS", and
>> "Serotech's Freedom Box".  Is this really confusing people?
>>
>> Everett
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Darrell Shandrow
>>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:07 PM
>>  Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against
>> Serotek Corporation
>>
>>
>>  Hello John,
>>
>>  Serotek provides alternative technology for the blind, some of which
>> does compete with the JAWS screen reader sold by Freedom Scientific.
>> Their System Access screen reader is relatively new to the field, but
>> their FreedomBox Network has been around since 2000.  FreedomBox
>> Network is essentially an online service similar to AOL. In fact, many
>> of us refer to the FreedomBox Network as AOL for the blind.  System
>> Access and their newer remote access technologies provide completely
>> mobile computer access to virtually any system, as well as potentially
>> new employment opportunities for blind people who must have remote
>> access to other computers.
>>
>>  Freedom Scientific is suing Serotek over the use of the term
>> "FreedomBox". Please feel free to read
>> http://www.blindaccessjournal.com and http://www.thedesertskies.com as
>> well as do Google searches, before deciding whether or not you will
>> sign onto the petition.
>>
>>  Thanks.
>>
>>  Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
>>  Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to stop
>> suing!  Information should be accessible to us without need of
>> translation by another person.  Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
>> http://www.blindaccessjournal.com  Check out high quality
>> telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: John Ramsey
>>    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:53 PM
>>    Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit
>> Against Serotek Corporation
>>
>>
>>    What is the lawsuit about? I have no idea who this other company is
>> or what they provide, so I am totally lost.
>>    Take care,
>>    John
>>      -----Original Message-----
>>      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
>>      Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:20 PM
>>      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jfw-employment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>      Subject: Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against
>> Serotek Corporation
>>
>>
>>      Freedom Scientific, Inc. Asked to Cease Lawsuit Against Serotek
>> Corporation
>>
>>
>>
>>      An online petition is being circulated to everyone in the
>> assistive technology industry and the blind community for the purpose
>> of collecting signatures showing support for the concept that Freedom
>> Scientific, Inc. should cease their lawsuit against Serotek
>> Corporation.
>>
>>
>>
>>      May 20, 2007 -- We at the Blind Access Journal call upon everyone
>> in the assistive technology industry and the blind community to sign
>> the Save Serotek Petition found at http://www.saveserotek.org asking
>> Freedom Scientific, Inc. to cease their trademark infringement lawsuit
>> against Serotek Corporation. After allowing sufficient time to collect
>> a significant number of signatures, the signed petition will be sent,
>> via certified mail, to the Board of Directors of Freedom Scientific,
>> Inc. We invite redistribution of this press release to all interested
>> parties, post it on blogs, discuss it on podcasts and insure its wide
>> distribution to all independent and mainstream media outlets. E-mail,
>> MSN Windows Live Messenger, Skype and telephone queries are welcome
>> from all interested in this vital effort. We thank you in advance for
>> your support.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
>>      Visit http://www.SaveSerotek.org and ask Freedom Scientific to
>> stop suing!
>>      Information should be accessible to us without need of
>> translation by another person.
>>      Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
>> http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
>>      Check out high quality telecommunications services at
>> http://ld.net/?nu7i
>>
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