Just to let people know that I've made some more changes to !ClassicRip to fix problems with it working on Iyonix. I announced the latest version on comp.sys.acorn.announce on the 15th. I left the version numbers at 0.60i, but the versions available from the 15th onward have some improvements relevant for Iyonix use. So if you have a version downloaded before the 15th I recommend you replace it with the current one available from http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/software/ClassicRip.zip Note that the new version has a new user-settaable variable, 'trim'. This deals with a problem I found on my Iyonix where the size of the disc contents returned by the CD_ swis is one frame too big. So the end of ripping the last track with 'ripframes' generates an error, and the file ends up longer than one ripped with 'cdparanoia'. More details in the !Help file. I can now get indentical results using cdparanoia and ripframes on my Iyonix, but this needs a 'trim' value of '1' whereas this value has to be '0' on my ARMiniX's. A curio is that rips made with my Iyonix drives are offset 41 samples from those made using ARMiniX. In both cases, on a given machine, ripframes and cdparanoia give the same results. This is odd because cd audio is 'framed' at low level in chunks that are *not* 41 sample paris long. But then it is also odd that the CD_ swis return different content sizes. However that may be a difference beween OS versions for some reason. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support List-related queries to iyonix-support-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx