[openbeos] Re: news: development mailing list, distro guidelines

  • From: "Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 08:45:25 -0700

Simon Taylor wrote:
Koki said:

These changes would not be intrinsically intended to create a separate distribution from the official one, but simply to make the Haiku demo experience more accessible and interesting, and therefore enhance its promotional effect.

If Haiku considered itself in a state ready to be handed out as a demo CD, 
there would be an official pre-alpha demo release. There isn't (not sure on the 
VMWare image you mentioned), for the reason that the experience is not yet 
anything like R1 should be. Yes, so it basically works - which is great to see 
if you're an ex-BeOSer who thought the goal unattainable - but it's unoptimised 
and pretty slow, still pretty buggy, and not all that stable.

The fact that there isn't a base distribution yet does make hard to know what to do with 
people wanting to build stuff now. I don't think allowing the use of the Haiku name is 
the way to go though. The disclaimer "not the official Haiku distribution" 
could be changed until such a distro exists.

In the case of a CD produced to demo at a single event, say SCaLE, the distro could be 
called "SCaLE 2007 Demo", and then lower down on the CD it could include the 
"This CD is based on pre-release Haiku code. The Haiku project will release an 
official distribution of the OS when it is ready. For information about the official 
Haiku project, please visit http://haiku-os.org.
This software is work in progress and has missing functionality as well as many 
(known and unknown) bugs. Use at your own risk.
We are not affiliated with Haiku, do not contact them for support."

This doesn't follow the letter of the guidelines exactly (but the fact they're guidelines 
and not "rules" suggests that may be OK). I still think it's a good idea to 
make it clear these CDs are unofficial and to disallow use of the Haiku name or logo.

I should have said that I was not talking about a demo for end users. I was actually talking about a demo CD for developers that you can hand out at, say, conferences or even seminars. Yes, there are some people out there giving Haiku seminars at universities and even at work, and for them it would be great if they could easily churn out a few CDs with some additional stuff such as the development tools, and maybe even some additional documentation.

Haiku already has test images available (both HDD and VMWare); a demo CD/image for a conference/seminar/etc. would only be an extension of that, with the same intended audience but a bit more demonstrative of what it can do, and better suited for the event or a non-English audience where appropriate. Even if Haiku had an official base distro today, that will not change the fact that it can be enhanced as a demo/promo tool by a few harmless additions.

The text disclaimers are not a problem and easily surmountable; it is fairly easy to print them on the CD, or to include them as a Reame file on the desktop.

But the inability to use the Haiku name and logo in such a tool would actually discourage the effort that someone in the community may want to put for the sole purpose of promoting Haiku.



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