I am thinking of moving the Clock related options currently in Deskbar and Locale to Time preferences. The idea is to consolidate all of the clock related preferences to one location, and the best location is Time. This changed is spurred by the discussion that followed from when I added some more clock options to Deskbar (hrev43984) and also ticket #8769 which makes the (long and impassionate) case for moving the 12/24 hour clock options to Time prefs. The clock options in Time would look like this: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mda5n8lvTs1r0f0hfo1_500.png Deskbar preferences would look something like this (except with a few unrelated options added since this mockup was made): https://dev.haiku-os.org/attachment/ticket/7331/deskbar_mockup.png Although the clock options would be removed from Deskbar preferences I'd like to keep the 12/24 hour clock setting in both Time and Locale since it has a place in both. Setting the option in either would affect the other (and of course the clock in Deskbar as well). The only clock option that would remain in Deskbar would be the ability to hide and show the clock by right clicking on the clock. Doing this while the clock tab on Time preferences would update the checkbox. John Scipione