On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:02 PM, <pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:13:40PM -0500, Justin Stressman wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM, John Scipione <jscipione@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I would argue that there should at least be some way to get to the >> relevant section of the Locale preferences from the Clock preferences. >> The real issue here is that most users aren't going to think or know >> to go to the Locale settings to change something like 12/24 hour >> preferences. Not having any way to get to those settings from the >> first place essentially every user checks seems to be a usability >> failure to me. It's not that we have to take it out of Locale even... >> but give the user a common sense route to find them from the first >> place they look... the Clock preferences. >> >> My real issue with the 12/24 hour setting being under locale is that >> users are going to look under Clock preferences and be lost because >> the settings aren't in the obvious place. >> > I pretty much agree with the above. My personal 12/24 hr preference is > independent of my locale. I have 24hr setting on at least one machine, > even though I'm in the US, just because I'm used to it and it can be > convenient. > > Leave it in the Locale Prefs if you like, but duplicate it in the > obvious Time Prefs place. It seems like there is no way to please everyone here. I could have a setting in Time (or wherever the clock preferences wind up) that sets 12/24 hour format for the clock only overriding the locale setting controlled by a "Override locale time format" checkbox. Would that be acceptable?