[geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.

  • From: "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:22:54 +0000 (GMT)

Dan,
 
Another excellent exposé was done by James Collier in "Was It Only A Paper 
Moon?" His analysis of the physical space limitations of the LM and of the 
so-called rooster tails from the Rover are very good.
 
Also, have you seen Ralph Rene demonstrating the pressurized glove and his 
blowing away gravel with a hand-held leaf-blower? Kind of blows away any 
conception that the LM had a "10,000-lb thrust engine" under it.
 
Neville.

Dan <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think the Russians sent an unmanned probe to the moon knowing full well about 
the Van Allen belt would fry any person that went through it. I saw the video 
"A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" that was posted here a few days 
ago. That was very good a sealed it for me. There is no way that they ever went 
to the moon. Could be the radiation belt is designed by God to keep us here. 
Fallen man that is. The bible says that one day we will meet the lord in the 
air:




1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the 
voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall 
rise first: 

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with 
them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with 
the Lord. 

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

Pre post or a I don't really care you know the big dogmatic debate about the 
rapture or as I call it the catching away of the saints.

Interesting verse maybe that's when our fleshly bodies will burn up in the 
atmosphere and we receive our hevenly bodies.

Just a thought.

Dan.






"Cheryl B." wrote:
Dan -- This relativity thing-- I just don't get it. There are sites which
show what the astronauts would see, or anybody else for that matter, IF they
were standing on the moon looking at the earth.

Well, we don't have to imagine that such a thing happened, or at least NASA
claims that they had people on the moon. Mr. Cernan was there 72 hours.

Would there not be at least one observation from anyone of the earth
rotating? Relativity or not?

Cheryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan" 
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.


> Cheryl,
> Great web site. So many people are fast asleep from the anaesthetic that
today's societies feed them. Secular science and religion are a cauldron of
theories all mixed together and spoon fed to the public as truth. We can't
really wake them up. There is no formula. Only God who he has predestined us
before the foundation of the world to the knowledge of His son who is the
only truth which we are led to by the Holy Spirit day by day.
>
>
>
> Good to have you here.
>
>
> Dan.
>
> "Cheryl B." wrote:
> When I said I was a convert, I meant to geocentrism. I've been a Christian
> for over 30 years. (I'm old.) From the beginning I gobbled up information
> on creationism. I was able to think for myself enough to refute the space
> junkies or anyone who claimed there was life on other planets by pointing
> out that Genesis teaches that the sun, moon and stars were not created
until
> the fourth day, and looks to me like the stars were put up as decorations
> and directional signs to sailors and such and to declare the glory of God,
> and what is God going to do with all those people on other planets when He
> already had second thoughts about the life he had started on THIS planet.
> But I'd hear this stuff all the time from Christians, even those who had
> been to seminary.
>
> Goes to show that sometimes great intelligence is less importance than
> common sense and knowing the basics of the scriptures (i.e. read Genesis.)
>
> I'm one of those people I think that Marshall Hall describes in his
website
> that is a
> "lover of the truth" - and he does in fact go into that quality quite a
lot.
> I had just been thinking about that myself, the scripture about God
wanting
> us to be hot or cold rather than lukewarm. It's true that the ones who are
> ice cold at least love the truth. It's just that they are committed to a
> lie but don't know it. It's the ones who don't give a hoot one way or the
> other or who think they way they do because it's convenient or because
> somebody told them it was this way, so why not? -- people who just don't
> care drive me nuts.
>
> I'm friends with prolifers who get out on the streets, go to jail all the
> time for what they believe in. They are my friends, and I've been sharing
> some of this stuff with them. They are receptive to listening to me. Why?
> Because they love truth and are eager to find it wherever or whatever it
is.
>
> Also, as prolifers, activists, we've seen so many lies by the
> "auathorities" -- the pseudoscience of Planned Parenthood, the
evolutionists
> and their phony proofs, the Zero Population Growth and "overpopulation"
> alarmists, the environmaniacs, the feminists and homo groups, the sex ed
> people, all the socialists, the medical industry and their lies about
their
> awful pills and methods -- after all these groups, these respectable and
> accepted groups, and having seen they are all liars -- it's easy to take
> Jesus at his word when he says, Love not the world.
>
> So prolifers pretty much do NOT love the world, and we don't believe much
if
> anything that we read or hear from the atheist, liberal, proabort,
> socialist, communist, evironmaniacal people who worship "science
so-called."
>
> I have been disgusted with NASA for many years, the way they point
satellite
> dishes into space to try to pick up communications from the "aliens" they
> believe are flourishing out there.
>
> I have a website. I try to expose this nonsensical brainwashing to poor,
> impressionable schoolchildren. It's called www.educratsdictionary.com.
>
> It needs to be updated, and I want to get a discussion group going. But
you
> can see from it that I saw through NASA awhile ago. (i.e. the site's been
> up for five years and I wrote the stuff that's in it maybe eight years
ago.)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Lewis"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:36 PM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
>
>
> > Dear Cheryl,
> > I wrote my other posting to you before I saw this one. It just goes to
> show
> > that there are many ways of finding out about God. Presumably you belong
> to
> > some kind of Christian church? How do they respond to your interest in
> > things of creationism and geocentrism?
> >
> >
> > Jack Lewis
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cheryl B."
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:34 PM
> > Subject: [geocentrism] Hello, group.
> >
> >
> > > Hi, Group. I'm Cheryl that Dr. Neville introduced to you.
> > > I am a new convert. How did I get converted? I bumped into Marshall
> > Hall's website. I read it and said, yep, he's probably right. I went to
> > NASA's websites looking for pics of the earth turning, figuring
logically
> > that they would be the only ones with any proof one way or the other. I
> saw
> > no pics of the earth turning except for one short little "earth rotation
> > movie" supposedly taken from Galileo. It did not even claim to be a
> > timelapse. In fact, there was no information about how this movie was
> > created at all. My 16-year old who is into graphic arts said it looked
> like
> > a simulation to her. Furthermore, I know that Galileo was supposed to
> have
> > looped around the earth.
> > >
> > > I base my believe not on a great understanding of physics and science.
> I
> > am not a scientist and I have a woman's pea brain when it comes to
> physicis.
> > But I have a woman's genius brain when it comes to knowing human nature
> and
> > logic. And I just KNOW that if NASA had proof of the Copernican theory
> that
> > it would be PLASTERED all over everywhere -- starting in the preschool
> texts
> > and going on up through the graduate texts. They would be using actual
> > photos to demonstrate the rotation of the earth (not to mention the
> > so-called orbit of the earth around the sun). These movies and photos
> would
> > be labeled as such. There would be quotes from the astronauts, things
> like,
> > "I saw the earth in its half-phase, saw the continents slowly
disappearing
> > behind the shadow," things like that. Many of them have written books,
> and
> > one of them, Cernan, spent 72 hous supposedly on the moon. Who could
> resist
> > the temptation to be able to say, "You guys have only imagined the earth
> > turning. I h
> > > ave seen it with my own two eyes."
> > >
> > > Well, there are no such quotes from the astaronauts. There are also no
> > pictures, except the hokey ones made by Calvin Harrison, the Mormon
space
> > junkie that NASA lets do all their pics on their website. Calvin is not
a
> > scientist, his hobby (admitted) is graphic and computer arts, and as a
> > Mormon his religion already teaches him that there are countless planets
> > "out there" populated with live, most of it more intelligent than ours.
> As
> > a Mormon, he expects to have his own planet to populate someday when he
> > reaches godhood as he supposes. My sister is a Mormon, and believe me
she
> > watches Star Trek as though these programs were documentaries, not fairy
> > tales.
> > >
> > > Please write back. I have nobody to talk to about this subject. I have
> a
> > lot of questions and a lot of things to share of my own supposings.
> > >
> > > Thanks. Cheryl
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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