[geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.

  • From: "Jack Lewis" <jack.lewis@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:33:01 -0000

Dear Cheryl,
This is a perfectly reasonable assumption and one that I had never heard
before. I think this falls into the same category as the astronauts saying
that they didn't see the stars either.


Jack


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.


> A friend told me the whole moon landing thing was staged in Las Vegas,
that
> the film crew all had untimely deaths later, and they were pacified with
> hookers and parties during hte shoot.
>
> If they did go to the moon I'd like to know why not one single astronaut
has
> commented about observing the earth turning.  I realize that it takes 12
> hours for one side of the earth to completely move around, but it would
> still be apparent to anyone looking that the earth was turning.
>
> If you went to the moon and believed the earth was turning, wouldn't you
> want to brag about having seen it with your own two eyes?
>
> Cheryl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan" <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:36 AM
> Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
>
>
> > I think the Russians sent an unmanned probe to the moon knowing full
well
> about the Van Allen belt would fry any person that went through it. I saw
> the video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" that was posted
> here a few days ago. That was very good a sealed it for me. There is no
way
> that they ever went to the moon. Could be the radiation belt is designed
by
> God to keep us here. Fallen man that is. The bible says that one day we
will
> meet the lord in the air:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with
> the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
> Christ shall rise first:
> >
> > 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
> with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever
> be with the Lord.
> >
> > 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
> >
> > Pre post or a I don't really care you know the big dogmatic debate about
> the rapture or as I call it the catching away of the saints.
> >
> > Interesting verse maybe that's when our fleshly bodies will burn up in
the
> atmosphere and we receive our hevenly bodies.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Dan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Cheryl B." <c.battles@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Dan -- This relativity thing-- I just don't get it. There are sites
which
> > show what the astronauts would see, or anybody else for that matter, IF
> they
> > were standing on the moon looking at the earth.
> >
> > Well, we don't have to imagine that such a thing happened, or at least
> NASA
> > claims that they had people on the moon. Mr. Cernan was there 72 hours.
> >
> > Would there not be at least one observation from anyone of the earth
> > rotating? Relativity or not?
> >
> > Cheryl
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:51 PM
> > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> >
> >
> > > Cheryl,
> > > Great web site. So many people are fast asleep from the anaesthetic
that
> > today's societies feed them. Secular science and religion are a cauldron
> of
> > theories all mixed together and spoon fed to the public as truth. We
can't
> > really wake them up. There is no formula. Only God who he has
predestined
> us
> > before the foundation of the world to the knowledge of His son who is
the
> > only truth which we are led to by the Holy Spirit day by day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good to have you here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan.
> > >
> > > "Cheryl B." wrote:
> > > When I said I was a convert, I meant to geocentrism. I've been a
> Christian
> > > for over 30 years. (I'm old.) From the beginning I gobbled up
> information
> > > on creationism. I was able to think for myself enough to refute the
> space
> > > junkies or anyone who claimed there was life on other planets by
> pointing
> > > out that Genesis teaches that the sun, moon and stars were not created
> > until
> > > the fourth day, and looks to me like the stars were put up as
> decorations
> > > and directional signs to sailors and such and to declare the glory of
> God,
> > > and what is God going to do with all those people on other planets
when
> He
> > > already had second thoughts about the life he had started on THIS
> planet.
> > > But I'd hear this stuff all the time from Christians, even those who
had
> > > been to seminary.
> > >
> > > Goes to show that sometimes great intelligence is less importance than
> > > common sense and knowing the basics of the scriptures (i.e. read
> Genesis.)
> > >
> > > I'm one of those people I think that Marshall Hall describes in his
> > website
> > > that is a
> > > "lover of the truth" - and he does in fact go into that quality quite
a
> > lot.
> > > I had just been thinking about that myself, the scripture about God
> > wanting
> > > us to be hot or cold rather than lukewarm. It's true that the ones who
> are
> > > ice cold at least love the truth. It's just that they are committed to
a
> > > lie but don't know it. It's the ones who don't give a hoot one way or
> the
> > > other or who think they way they do because it's convenient or because
> > > somebody told them it was this way, so why not? -- people who just
don't
> > > care drive me nuts.
> > >
> > > I'm friends with prolifers who get out on the streets, go to jail all
> the
> > > time for what they believe in. They are my friends, and I've been
> sharing
> > > some of this stuff with them. They are receptive to listening to me.
> Why?
> > > Because they love truth and are eager to find it wherever or whatever
it
> > is.
> > >
> > > Also, as prolifers, activists, we've seen so many lies by the
> > > "auathorities" -- the pseudoscience of Planned Parenthood, the
> > evolutionists
> > > and their phony proofs, the Zero Population Growth and
"overpopulation"
> > > alarmists, the environmaniacs, the feminists and homo groups, the sex
ed
> > > people, all the socialists, the medical industry and their lies about
> > their
> > > awful pills and methods -- after all these groups, these respectable
and
> > > accepted groups, and having seen they are all liars -- it's easy to
take
> > > Jesus at his word when he says, Love not the world.
> > >
> > > So prolifers pretty much do NOT love the world, and we don't believe
> much
> > if
> > > anything that we read or hear from the atheist, liberal, proabort,
> > > socialist, communist, evironmaniacal people who worship "science
> > so-called."
> > >
> > > I have been disgusted with NASA for many years, the way they point
> > satellite
> > > dishes into space to try to pick up communications from the "aliens"
> they
> > > believe are flourishing out there.
> > >
> > > I have a website. I try to expose this nonsensical brainwashing to
poor,
> > > impressionable schoolchildren. It's called www.educratsdictionary.com.
> > >
> > > It needs to be updated, and I want to get a discussion group going.
But
> > you
> > > can see from it that I saw through NASA awhile ago. (i.e. the site's
> been
> > > up for five years and I wrote the stuff that's in it maybe eight years
> > ago.)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack Lewis"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:36 PM
> > > Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Hello, group.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Cheryl,
> > > > I wrote my other posting to you before I saw this one. It just goes
to
> > > show
> > > > that there are many ways of finding out about God. Presumably you
> belong
> > > to
> > > > some kind of Christian church? How do they respond to your interest
in
> > > > things of creationism and geocentrism?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jack Lewis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cheryl B."
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:34 PM
> > > > Subject: [geocentrism] Hello, group.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, Group. I'm Cheryl that Dr. Neville introduced to you.
> > > > > I am a new convert. How did I get converted? I bumped into
Marshall
> > > > Hall's website. I read it and said, yep, he's probably right. I went
> to
> > > > NASA's websites looking for pics of the earth turning, figuring
> > logically
> > > > that they would be the only ones with any proof one way or the
other.
> I
> > > saw
> > > > no pics of the earth turning except for one short little "earth
> rotation
> > > > movie" supposedly taken from Galileo. It did not even claim to be a
> > > > timelapse. In fact, there was no information about how this movie
was
> > > > created at all. My 16-year old who is into graphic arts said it
looked
> > > like
> > > > a simulation to her. Furthermore, I know that Galileo was supposed
to
> > > have
> > > > looped around the earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > I base my believe not on a great understanding of physics and
> science.
> > > I
> > > > am not a scientist and I have a woman's pea brain when it comes to
> > > physicis.
> > > > But I have a woman's genius brain when it comes to knowing human
> nature
> > > and
> > > > logic. And I just KNOW that if NASA had proof of the Copernican
theory
> > > that
> > > > it would be PLASTERED all over everywhere -- starting in the
preschool
> > > texts
> > > > and going on up through the graduate texts. They would be using
actual
> > > > photos to demonstrate the rotation of the earth (not to mention the
> > > > so-called orbit of the earth around the sun). These movies and
photos
> > > would
> > > > be labeled as such. There would be quotes from the astronauts,
things
> > > like,
> > > > "I saw the earth in its half-phase, saw the continents slowly
> > disappearing
> > > > behind the shadow," things like that. Many of them have written
books,
> > > and
> > > > one of them, Cernan, spent 72 hous supposedly on the moon. Who could
> > > resist
> > > > the temptation to be able to say, "You guys have only imagined the
> earth
> > > > turning. I h
> > > > > ave seen it with my own two eyes."
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, there are no such quotes from the astaronauts. There are
also
> no
> > > > pictures, except the hokey ones made by Calvin Harrison, the Mormon
> > space
> > > > junkie that NASA lets do all their pics on their website. Calvin is
> not
> > a
> > > > scientist, his hobby (admitted) is graphic and computer arts, and as
a
> > > > Mormon his religion already teaches him that there are countless
> planets
> > > > "out there" populated with live, most of it more intelligent than
> ours.
> > > As
> > > > a Mormon, he expects to have his own planet to populate someday when
> he
> > > > reaches godhood as he supposes. My sister is a Mormon, and believe
me
> > she
> > > > watches Star Trek as though these programs were documentaries, not
> fairy
> > > > tales.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please write back. I have nobody to talk to about this subject. I
> have
> > > a
> > > > lot of questions and a lot of things to share of my own supposings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks. Cheryl
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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