[duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite

  • From: "John Sanders" <jmtsanders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:47:29 -0500

Hi, yes that's what I'm trying to do is bring in the .brf file as a print file.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:18 PM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite


> Before you do that, I have a question, are you trying to import the
> file into DBT as a print file?
> 
> If this is the case, trying to back-transcribe the file will result in
> DBT performing a second transcription of the file into braille.
> 
> When importing a .BRF file into DBT, you must use the braille file
> importer.  The settings for the braille file importer can be found
> under the "Global Settings" menu by pressing <ALT+G>.
> 
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:46:05 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi, when I try to translate it in to text format, jaws still reads my file 
> >as if it were still in braille.
> >I'll e-mail dux bury technical support.
> >Sincerely,
> >John Sanders
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:24 PM
> >Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite
> >
> >
> >> John,
> >> 
> >> The fact that the file is a .BRF file is probably the most important piece 
> >> of the puzzle.  No screen reader will ever read that kind of file 
> >> correctly 
> >> because screen readers are designed to read text, and that file is the 
> >> result of translating text into braille.  Whenever you run into a problem 
> >> like this, it's a good idea to tell us what kind of file you're trying to 
> >> read.  Had you mentioned that at the outset, you'd have gotten the answer 
> >> quite a bit sooner.
> >> 
> >> Steve
> >> 
> >> On Tuesday 3/23/04 15:04 John Sanders wrote:
> >> >Hi, a couple of other things I forgot to tell you.  The file is in a .brf 
> >> >format. I also got the file off of
> >> >the web braille service.
> >> >Does that help you any?
> >> >Sincerely,
> >> >John Sanders
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:30 AM
> >> >Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > If you have already tried the suggestions that have been made by other
> >> > > listers, then in my opinion, I have 1 more idea to throw into the pot
> >> > > as to why your screen reader is not reading the file correctly.
> >> > >
> >> > > When files are created in word processors such as Word, WordPerfect
> >> > > and DBT, they are created in 2 different ways.
> >> > >
> >> > > One way is to type headings, paragraphs, outlines and lists etc., and
> >> > > pressing <ENTER> twice to separate one block of text from another.
> >> > >
> >> > > The other way is to type headings, paragraphs, outlines and lists
> >> > > etc., with the use of styles.
> >> > >
> >> > > When using a style, such as a paragraph style, in Word or WordPerfect,
> >> > > you can have it insert a blank space between each paragraph measuring
> >> > > the distance equal to that of a blank line.  Because styles can be
> >> > > programmed to do this, you only need to press the <ENTER> key once to
> >> > > separate each paragraph and not twice.
> >> > >
> >> > > The problem arises when the file is save to a .TXT file format.  When
> >> > > styles are used, only 1 hard return is placed at the point where the
> >> > > <ENTER> key is pressed and not 2.  The programmers of these word
> >> > > processors have not been intelligent enough to work out that, if a
> >> > > style has been set to force such a space between units of text, then
> >> > > that feature of the style should be replaced with a second hard
> >> > > return.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now the problem is compounded when the saved .TXT file is imported
> >> > > into another word processor, such as DBT.  In many cases, most, if not
> >> > > all of the hard returns are stripped away and they are replaced with
> >> > > the space character.
> >> > >
> >> > > Like me, if you have come across this situation and you have imported
> >> > > a file into a word processor and it appears as if it is one huge block
> >> > > of text, there is no fast fix solution to solve this problem.  Like a
> >> > > bad storm, you have to grit your teeth and go through the file and
> >> > > format the file as you go along.  As far as I know, that is the only
> >> > > way.  I'm sorry about that.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sincerely:
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave Durber
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:23:17 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >BlankHi, when I open up a .txt file in to duxbury, it doesn't display 
> >> > rite. In other words, my screen reader
> >> >isn't reading it rite. How should I go about fixing it?
> >> > > >Sincerely,
> >> > > >John Sanders
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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