Hi, I forgot to also tell you, that I'm runing dux bury braille translator version 10. And, I can't find the check box you are talking about. How should I go about finding that check box? Sincerely, John Sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite > OK! Now we have sorted that out, we can get down to business. > > Assuming that you still have the original file, that you downloaded > from the web site and, also assuming that you haven't made any chages > to the file and saved those changes, do the following: > > 1. Open DBT. > > 2. Press <ALT+G> to open the "Global setup menu". > > 3. Press the letter <B> key to open the "Formatted Braille > Importer...". > > 4. Press <SHIFT+TAB> once to go back to "Read formatted braille > without interpretation". By default, this check box is unchecked. > Press the <SPACE BAR> to check it. > > 5. Press the <ENTER> key to save this setting and exit the menu. > > 6. It is very important that you know how many characters there are > per line and how many lines there are on each page. E-mail the > organization that runs the web site and ask them for the values they > set for their publications that are downloadable from their web site > then, make the necessary changes in the "Global: Embosser Setup..." > menu. > > 7. Open the file, making sure that import filter is "Formatted > Braille". > > I hope that the above information will be of help to you. > > Sincerely: > > Dave Durber > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:47:29 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi, yes that's what I'm trying to do is bring in the .brf file as a print > >file. > >Sincerely, > >John Sanders > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:18 PM > >Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite > > > > > >> Before you do that, I have a question, are you trying to import the > >> file into DBT as a print file? > >> > >> If this is the case, trying to back-transcribe the file will result in > >> DBT performing a second transcription of the file into braille. > >> > >> When importing a .BRF file into DBT, you must use the braille file > >> importer. The settings for the braille file importer can be found > >> under the "Global Settings" menu by pressing <ALT+G>. > >> > >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:46:05 -0500, you wrote: > >> > >> >Hi, when I try to translate it in to text format, jaws still reads my > >> >file as if it were still in braille. > >> >I'll e-mail dux bury technical support. > >> >Sincerely, > >> >John Sanders > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Steve Dresser" <s.dresser@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:24 PM > >> >Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite > >> > > >> > > >> >> John, > >> >> > >> >> The fact that the file is a .BRF file is probably the most important > >> >> piece > >> >> of the puzzle. No screen reader will ever read that kind of file > >> >> correctly > >> >> because screen readers are designed to read text, and that file is the > >> >> result of translating text into braille. Whenever you run into a > >> >> problem > >> >> like this, it's a good idea to tell us what kind of file you're trying > >> >> to > >> >> read. Had you mentioned that at the outset, you'd have gotten the > >> >> answer > >> >> quite a bit sooner. > >> >> > >> >> Steve > >> >> > >> >> On Tuesday 3/23/04 15:04 John Sanders wrote: > >> >> >Hi, a couple of other things I forgot to tell you. The file is in a > >> >> >.brf > >> >> >format. I also got the file off of > >> >> >the web braille service. > >> >> >Does that help you any? > >> >> >Sincerely, > >> >> >John Sanders > >> >> > > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> >To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:30 AM > >> >> >Subject: [duxuser] Re: duxuser opens file but, not being displayed rite > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > If you have already tried the suggestions that have been made by > >> >> > > other > >> >> > > listers, then in my opinion, I have 1 more idea to throw into the > >> >> > > pot > >> >> > > as to why your screen reader is not reading the file correctly. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > When files are created in word processors such as Word, WordPerfect > >> >> > > and DBT, they are created in 2 different ways. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > One way is to type headings, paragraphs, outlines and lists etc., > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > pressing <ENTER> twice to separate one block of text from another. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > The other way is to type headings, paragraphs, outlines and lists > >> >> > > etc., with the use of styles. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > When using a style, such as a paragraph style, in Word or > >> >> > > WordPerfect, > >> >> > > you can have it insert a blank space between each paragraph > >> >> > > measuring > >> >> > > the distance equal to that of a blank line. Because styles can be > >> >> > > programmed to do this, you only need to press the <ENTER> key once > >> >> > > to > >> >> > > separate each paragraph and not twice. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > The problem arises when the file is save to a .TXT file format. > >> >> > > When > >> >> > > styles are used, only 1 hard return is placed at the point where the > >> >> > > <ENTER> key is pressed and not 2. The programmers of these word > >> >> > > processors have not been intelligent enough to work out that, if a > >> >> > > style has been set to force such a space between units of text, then > >> >> > > that feature of the style should be replaced with a second hard > >> >> > > return. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Now the problem is compounded when the saved .TXT file is imported > >> >> > > into another word processor, such as DBT. In many cases, most, if > >> >> > > not > >> >> > > all of the hard returns are stripped away and they are replaced with > >> >> > > the space character. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Like me, if you have come across this situation and you have > >> >> > > imported > >> >> > > a file into a word processor and it appears as if it is one huge > >> >> > > block > >> >> > > of text, there is no fast fix solution to solve this problem. Like > >> >> > > a > >> >> > > bad storm, you have to grit your teeth and go through the file and > >> >> > > format the file as you go along. As far as I know, that is the only > >> >> > > way. I'm sorry about that. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Sincerely: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Dave Durber > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:23:17 -0500, you wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >BlankHi, when I open up a .txt file in to duxbury, it doesn't > >> >> > > >display > >> >> > rite. In other words, my screen reader > >> >> >isn't reading it rite. 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