[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
- From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:48:04 -0500
Well, then maybe he should be the one Canadian that starts doing something
about starting a Canadian version of Bookshare. Instead of complaining he
ought to do something about it. I bet if he gave it a shot he might be
surprised how many people might be willing to pitch in and help. He is on
quite a few mailinglists. He ought to write a message on each mailinglist he
is on asking for help from others in his country to get the ball rolling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:05 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: How would Bruce know that? He is just one Canadian, after all.
:
: At 09:32 AM 3/16/2007, William Stephan wrote:
: >If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a
: >service similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
: >
: >
: >-----Original Message-----
: >.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
: >.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
: >.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >.
: >.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its copyright
: >.laws.
: >.
: >.Bruce
: >.
: >.--
: >.Bruce Toews
: >.Skype ID: o.canada
: >.E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
: >.LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
: >.Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
: >.Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
: >.Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: >.
: >.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
: >.
: >.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I
: >guess if other nations built that sort of language into their
: >copyright laws, Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to
: >operate for the benefit of their citizens.
: >.>
: >.> -----Original Message-----
: >.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
: >.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >.> .
: >.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
: >.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid
: >.> .politics)
: >.> .
: >.> .
: >.> .-----Original Message-----
: >.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
: >.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
: >.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >.> .
: >.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so we
: >.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
: >.> .
: >.> .Bruce
: >.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
: >.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
: >.> .> Hello,
: >.> .>
: >.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments
: >.> .> TI-994a
: >.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have now
: >.> .is
: >.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
: >.> .Bookshare
: >.> .> is
: >.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material. I
: >.> .> can't
: >.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
: >.> .the
: >.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
: >.> .>
: >.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
: >.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
: >.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
: >.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >.> .>
: >.> .> Hi folks,
: >.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
: >.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
: >.> .> synthetic
: >.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
: >.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the DEC
: >.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
: >.> .very
: >.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
: >.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
: >.> .synthesizer
: >.> .> for
: >.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was *very*
: >.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
: >.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
: >.> .286
: >.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
: >.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
: >.> .board
: >.> .> and
: >.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than nothing.
: >.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with
: >.> .the
: >.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
: >.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
: >.> .> listen
: >.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a "Read
: >.> .> All"
: >.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers. Now,
: >.> .> how
: >.> .> can you complain about this?
: >.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
: >.> .>
: >.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
: >.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
: >.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
: >.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
: >.> .>
: >.> .> Crystal's right!
: >.> .>
: >.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember when
: >.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo.
: >.> .>
: >.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they want
: >.> .to
: >.> .> use
: >.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used is
: >.> .> particularly significant in any case.
: >.> .>
: >.> .>
: >.> .> -----Original Message-----
: >.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
: >.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
: >.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk.
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
: >.> .access
: >.> .> to
: >.> .> .printed material was very limited.
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank you
: >.> .> very
: >.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .Crystal
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .
: >.> .> .
: >.> .>
: >.> .>
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: >.> .--
: >.> .Bruce Toews
: >.> .E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx
: >.> .Website: http://www.ogts.net
: >.> .Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
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