If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a service similar to Bookshare for yourselves? -----Original Message----- .From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> .Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk . .It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its copyright .laws. . .Bruce . .-- .Bruce Toews .Skype ID: o.canada .E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx .LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com .Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net .Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net .Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com . .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote: . .> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I guess if other nations built that sort of language into their copyright laws, Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to operate for the benefit of their citizens. .> .> -----Original Message----- .> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk .> . .> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the .> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid .> .politics) .> . .> . .> .-----Original Message----- .> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews .> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM .> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk .> . .> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so we .> .can all read instead of being barred by politics. .> . .> .Bruce .> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel" .> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: .> .> Hello, .> .> .> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments .> .> TI-994a .> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have now .> .is .> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with .> .Bookshare .> .> is .> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material. I .> .> can't .> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in .> .the .> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape. .> .> .> .> -----Original Message----- .> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] .> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge .> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM .> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk .> .> .> .> Hi folks, .> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here. .> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this .> .> synthetic .> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years. .> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the DEC .> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have .> .very .> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000. .> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk .> .synthesizer .> .> for .> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was *very* .> .> limited it was better than nothing. .> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a .> .286 .> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz. .> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech .> .board .> .> and .> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than nothing. .> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with .> .the .> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing. .> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can .> .> listen .> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a "Read .> .> All" .> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers. Now, .> .> how .> .> can you complain about this? .> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie... .> .> .> .> -----Original Message----- .> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] .> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan .> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM .> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx .> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk .> .> .> .> Crystal's right! .> .> .> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember when .> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo. .> .> .> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they want .> .to .> .> use .> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used is .> .> particularly significant in any case. .> .> .> .> .> .> -----Original Message----- .> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM .> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk . .> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk. .> .> . .> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when .> .access .> .> to .> .> .printed material was very limited. .> .> . .> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me. .> .> . .> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank you .> .> very .> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II. .> .> . .> .> .Crystal .> .> . .> .> . .> .> . .> .> . .> .> .> .> .> .> -- .> .> No virus found in this incoming message. .> .> Checked by AVG Free Edition. .> .> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: .> .> 3/15/2007 .> .> 11:27 AM .> .> .> .> .> .> -- .> .> No virus found in this outgoing message. .> .> Checked by AVG Free Edition. .> .> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: .> .> 3/15/2007 .> .> 11:27 AM .> .> .> .> .> .> .> .> -- .> .> No virus found in this incoming message. .> .> Checked by AVG Free Edition. .> .> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: .> .> 3/15/2007 .> .> 11:27 AM .> .> .> .> .> .> .> . .> .-- .> .Bruce Toews .> .E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx .> .Website: http://www.ogts.net .> .Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net .> .Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com .> . .> . .> . .> .> .> . .