[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk

  • From: "William Stephan" <wstephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:32:05 -0600

If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a service 
similar to Bookshare for yourselves?


-----Original Message-----
.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.
.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its copyright 
.laws.
.
.Bruce
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.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
.
.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law.  I guess if  
other nations built that sort of language into their copyright laws, Bookshare 
or a similar entity would be able to operate for the benefit of their citizens.
.>
.> -----Original Message-----
.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .
.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid
.> .politics)
.> .
.> .
.> .-----Original Message-----
.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .
.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so we
.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
.> .
.> .Bruce
.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
.> .> Hello,
.> .>
.> .> I, also have a similar history.  I started with a Texas Instruments
.> .> TI-994a
.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus.  What we have now
.> .is
.> .> amazing and a blessing.  The computer and Bookport along with
.> .Bookshare
.> .> is
.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material.  I
.> .> can't
.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
.> .the
.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .>
.> .> Hi folks,
.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
.> .> synthetic
.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the DEC
.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
.> .very
.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
.> .synthesizer
.> .> for
.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was *very*
.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
.> .286
.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
.> .board
.> .> and
.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than nothing.
.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with
.> .the
.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
.> .> listen
.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a "Read
.> .> All"
.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers. Now,
.> .> how
.> .> can you complain about this?
.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .>
.> .> Crystal's right!
.> .>
.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember when
.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo.
.> .>
.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they want
.> .to
.> .> use
.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used is
.> .> particularly significant in any case.
.> .>
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk.
.> .> .
.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
.> .access
.> .> to
.> .> .printed material was very limited.
.> .> .
.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
.> .> .
.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank you
.> .> very
.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
.> .> .
.> .> .Crystal
.> .> .
.> .> .
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