[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
- From: jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:44:35 -0700 (PDT)
Book share also exists because of the generosity of the individuals who began
at in Silicon Valley to use technology to assist people with reading
roadblocks. These innovative people stepped in the gap to fill a void, which
is greatly appreciated.
Politically what should be happening is that the US National Library Service or
the Canadian Library Service should begin to scan books and make them available
as text/braille documents which can be read on the Book Port. I see even the
movement towards digital audio players as not embracing the new technologies
that are available. 1 can scan and make available many more books than 1 can
record by voice. I would appreciate it if the NLS and its state library system
would be willing to scan any book that a person wanted to scan. This would
make an enormous number of books available. I'm sure that these services like
NLS or Canadian NLS would be able to get through the hurdles of copyrights and
publishers.
James Nuttall -- Michigan
----- Original Message ----
From: William Stephan <wstephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:32:05 AM
Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a service
similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
-----Original Message-----
.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.
.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its copyright
.laws.
.
.Bruce
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.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
.
.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I guess if
other nations built that sort of language into their copyright laws, Bookshare
or a similar entity would be able to operate for the benefit of their citizens.
.>
.> -----Original Message-----
.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .
.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid
.> .politics)
.> .
.> .
.> .-----Original Message-----
.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .
.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so we
.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
.> .
.> .Bruce
.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
.> .> Hello,
.> .>
.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments
.> .> TI-994a
.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have now
.> .is
.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
.> .Bookshare
.> .> is
.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material. I
.> .> can't
.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
.> .the
.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .>
.> .> Hi folks,
.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
.> .> synthetic
.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the DEC
.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
.> .very
.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
.> .synthesizer
.> .> for
.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was *very*
.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
.> .286
.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
.> .board
.> .> and
.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than nothing.
.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with
.> .the
.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
.> .> listen
.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a "Read
.> .> All"
.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers. Now,
.> .> how
.> .> can you complain about this?
.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.> .>
.> .> Crystal's right!
.> .>
.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember when
.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo.
.> .>
.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they want
.> .to
.> .> use
.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used is
.> .> particularly significant in any case.
.> .>
.> .>
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk.
.> .> .
.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
.> .access
.> .> to
.> .> .printed material was very limited.
.> .> .
.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
.> .> .
.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank you
.> .> very
.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
.> .> .
.> .> .Crystal
.> .> .
.> .> .
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