[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
- To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:28:18 -0500
I couldn't say. I have no status in any circles, let alone power. But I
would suggest that colaboration is always better than duplication.
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:32:05 -0600, "William Stephan"
<wstephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a service
> similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> .From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> .Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> .
> .It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its
> copyright
> .laws.
> .
> .Bruce
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> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
> .
> .> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I guess
> if other nations built that sort of language into their copyright laws,
> Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to operate for the benefit of
> their citizens.
> .>
> .> -----Original Message-----
> .> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> .> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> .> .
> .> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
> .> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more
> stupid
> .> .politics)
> .> .
> .> .
> .> .-----Original Message-----
> .> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> .> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
> .> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> .> .
> .> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so
> we
> .> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
> .> .
> .> .Bruce
> .> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
> .> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> .> .> Hello,
> .> .>
> .> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments
> .> .> TI-994a
> .> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have
> now
> .> .is
> .> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
> .> .Bookshare
> .> .> is
> .> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material.
> I
> .> .> can't
> .> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
> .> .the
> .> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
> .> .>
> .> .> -----Original Message-----
> .> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> .> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
> .> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
> .> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> .> .>
> .> .> Hi folks,
> .> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
> .> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
> .> .> synthetic
> .> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
> .> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the
> DEC
> .> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
> .> .very
> .> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
> .> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
> .> .synthesizer
> .> .> for
> .> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was
> *very*
> .> .> limited it was better than nothing.
> .> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
> .> .286
> .> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
> .> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
> .> .board
> .> .> and
> .> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than
> nothing.
> .> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along
> with
> .> .the
> .> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
> .> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
> .> .> listen
> .> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a
> "Read
> .> .> All"
> .> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers.
> Now,
> .> .> how
> .> .> can you complain about this?
> .> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
> .> .>
> .> .> -----Original Message-----
> .> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> .> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
> .> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
> .> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> .> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
> .> .>
> .> .> Crystal's right!
> .> .>
> .> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember
> when
> .> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a
> kazoo.
> .> .>
> .> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they
> want
> .> .to
> .> .> use
> .> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used
> is
> .> .> particularly significant in any case.
> .> .>
> .> .>
> .> .> -----Original Message-----
> .> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> .> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
> .> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> .> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
> .> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double
> Talk.
> .> .> .
> .> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
> .> .access
> .> .> to
> .> .> .printed material was very limited.
> .> .> .
> .> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
> .> .> .
> .> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank
> you
> .> .> very
> .> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
> .> .> .
> .> .> .Crystal
> .> .> .
> .> .> .
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