[bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
- From: "William Stephan" <wstephan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:39:31 -0600
Sandy, it was a poor choice of words, so I'll rephrase.
In that case Bruce, Canadians who are interested in a Bookshare-like service
ought to be putting political and economic pressure on whatever cognizant
agency exists in your country to bring this to fruition.
-----Original Message-----
.From: "Sandy Licht"<slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.Sent: 3/18/07 11:05:51 PM
.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.
.How would Bruce know that? He is just one Canadian, after all.
.
.At 09:32 AM 3/16/2007, William Stephan wrote:
.>If that's the Case Bruce, why haven't you Canadians developped a
.>service similar to Bookshare for yourselves?
.>
.>
.>-----Original Message-----
.>.From: "Bruce Toews"<DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
.>.Sent: 3/15/07 4:17:28 PM
.>.To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.>.Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.>.
.>.It's not that simple. Canada does have similar provisions in its copyright
.>.laws.
.>.
.>.Bruce
.>.
.>.--
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.>.On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, William Stephan wrote:
.>.
.>.> Bookshare exists because of a provision in US copyright law. I
.>guess if other nations built that sort of language into their
.>copyright laws, Bookshare or a similar entity would be able to
.>operate for the benefit of their citizens.
.>.>
.>.> -----Original Message-----
.>.> .From: "Richard Ring"<richard.ring@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.>.> .Sent: 3/15/07 2:17:15 PM
.>.> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.>.> .
.>.> .I completely agree with you, but I think it's going to have to be the
.>.> .result of some kind of International Copyright agreement. (more stupid
.>.> .politics)
.>.> .
.>.> .
.>.> .-----Original Message-----
.>.> .From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
.>.> .Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:28 PM
.>.> .To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.>.> .
.>.> .All we need to do now is get Book Share available to non-Americans so we
.>.> .can all read instead of being barred by politics.
.>.> .
.>.> .Bruce
.>.> .On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:15:47 -0400, "Fred Wurtzel"
.>.> .<f.wurtzel@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
.>.> .> Hello,
.>.> .>
.>.> .> I, also have a similar history. I started with a Texas Instruments
.>.> .> TI-994a
.>.> .> computer with speech then went to an Apple II plus. What we have now
.>.> .is
.>.> .> amazing and a blessing. The computer and Bookport along with
.>.> .Bookshare
.>.> .> is
.>.> .> an unbelievable combination to provide access to printed material. I
.>.> .> can't
.>.> .> imagine what a difference this would have made for me in college in
.>.> .the
.>.> .> early 70's just after the invention of the cassette tape.
.>.> .>
.>.> .> -----Original Message-----
.>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.>.> .> On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
.>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:50 PM
.>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.>.> .>
.>.> .> Hi folks,
.>.> .> Well, I gues I'll throw in my couple of cents worth here.
.>.> .> I concur with William and Crystal as I also have been around this
.>.> .> synthetic
.>.> .> speech game for a considerable amount of years.
.>.> .> A long time ago about the only thing which talked was some of the DEC
.>.> .> terminals which would hook up to some IBM mainframes. They did have
.>.> .very
.>.> .> good speech with a German accent and they also cost around $8,000.
.>.> .> My wife and I were elated to find the Voltrax Type and Talk
.>.> .synthesizer
.>.> .> for
.>.> .> the old Apple II+ because it was only $350 or so. While it was *very*
.>.> .> limited it was better than nothing.
.>.> .> Next I migrated up to an IBM compatible micro which was, I think, a
.>.> .286
.>.> .> processor with a fantastic speed of about 4Khz.
.>.> .> On this wonderful piece of equipment I had a Symphonics 215 speech
.>.> .board
.>.> .> and
.>.> .> it was, at best, miserable but it also was a lot better than nothing.
.>.> .> What we have today with Eloquence, Double and Triple Talk along with
.>.> .the
.>.> .> SAPI voicesis a true blessing.
.>.> .> I use the USB Triple Talk on my 3GHZ XP Home computer because I can
.>.> .> listen
.>.> .> to JAWS and music independently of each other. When I request a "Read
.>.> .> All"
.>.> .> command I get the new SAPI voice through the computer's speakers. Now,
.>.> .> how
.>.> .> can you complain about this?
.>.> .> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
.>.> .>
.>.> .> -----Original Message-----
.>.> .> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
.>.> .> On Behalf Of William Stephan
.>.> .> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:34 PM
.>.> .> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
.>.> .> Subject: [bookport] Re: In defense of Double Talk
.>.> .>
.>.> .> Crystal's right!
.>.> .>
.>.> .> Some of us who've been doing this for a while can still remember when
.>.> .> synthetic speech sounded about like someone reading through a kazoo.
.>.> .>
.>.> .> Since folks can apparently designate whatever speech engine they want
.>.> .to
.>.> .> use
.>.> .> on a file-by-file basis, I'm not sure why which synthesizer is used is
.>.> .> particularly significant in any case.
.>.> .>
.>.> .>
.>.> .> -----Original Message-----
.>.> .> .From: "Crystal French"<raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.>.> .> .Sent: 3/15/07 9:25:01 AM
.>.> .> .To: "bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
.>.> .> .Subject: [bookport] In defense of Double Talk .
.>.> .> .For my two cents, I have no problem with Eloquence, or Double Talk.
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .I have lived enough years to remember only too well a time when
.>.> .access
.>.> .> to
.>.> .> .printed material was very limited.
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .So, Eloquence and Double Talk sound like normal people to me.
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .In fact, Perfect Paul and I have a very nice relationship, thank you
.>.> .> very
.>.> .> .much, and I am happy to hear that he will be continued in BP II.
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .Crystal
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .
.>.> .> .
.>.> .>
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.Sandy Licht
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