When I personally use the term "jiffy proofreading " I specifically do not mean the kinds of examples you mention. I too have quickly proof read a short book or a particularly well scanned one. The fact that particular people seem able to do this book after book concerns me if this indeed is what is happening. Until we actually read their validates what they did we will not know. I suggest somebody download and read some of the books in question.
E. At 10:12 PM 3/15/2009, you wrote:
There might actually be legitimate reasons for jiffy proofreading sometimes, or perhaps I need to come up with another term for what I have in mind. I can think of three times that I did it. One time it was a book for young children, very young children. It really did take me only a few minutes to proofread the problem and solution for Big Bird. The other two times I found a book on the download list that Carrie had bounced back a long time ago with a note to make a minor correction and then she would approve it. Well, the former proofreader had not bothered to make the correction and a lot of time had passed, so I just made the correction and uploaded without reading it. I think that was legitimate."Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marxtable with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read Date: 3/15/2009 9:36:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: denisecwagner@xxxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table endAnd please forgive me for forgetting who had this idea, but I think the more quality reports that get reported for these jiffy readers, the more likely we will have a case for Bookshare to hold these skaters responsible for shoddy work. On the other hand, if a person is a jiffy reader, and the job is quality and no report can be filed, I don't think we have a problem or reason to complain. Of course, since I'm not a member I can't file any, but I think it's a great idea. Get the shoddy work on record, then have Bookshare investigate and maybe eventually reprimand or prevent these sub-par proofers fromsubmitting anything (if they are sub-par).I would only caution against one thing -- making sure the jiffy reader is truly just skating and not a newbie and ignorant of the duties and expectations.Boy, I'm spouting my mouth alot today -- I need a hobby *chuckle*. Denise --------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxxSent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:25 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof readShe either respects the holds or she is too out of it to realize that she could get away with not respecting them. Either way, though, that is why I think that your idea of a hold for code would work. It is a shame too, because, if you will recall, I was one of those who was complaining about all the holds because they are so frustrating for those of us who are browsing for something to proofread that is up for grabs and I am sure that this proposal will just increase the frustration for a new proofreader who may be perfectly conscientious and for even long time proofreaders who are not on this list, but what else is to be done? It is just basically unfair for jiffy proofreaders to deplete the download list like that."Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marxtable with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read Date: 3/15/2009 8:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mirxtech@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table endI used to love the system where a person could just browse the step 1 list and choose a book but that doesn't seem to be working anymore, so I would prefer, too, to have a specific person I could do a "hold for" when I submit. But not every book seems to have an interested proofreader. That's the only reason I was thinking that if you did a "hold for Reader" that at least a person who is going to read it would take it. I see that the 20 minute proofreader doesn't take the books I put up with holds, so at least that person respects the holds.Of course, it may not work and if it does work it may not work for long.Everyone who knows me knows I do NOT read every word of every book I submit. I do check the scan as it OCRs and I do page through the file but I know that's not enough to catch every error and there is no good way for Bookshare to say you haven't spent enough time working on this proofread because then the person could just hang onto the file for a couple more hours and then upload it anyway.Without the requirement that you have to read the proofread, I don't think there is a good solution but maybe we can come up with something, anything,as a work around? -- Jamie in MichiganCurrently Reading: Lost: The Search for Six of Six Million by Daniel Mendelsohnwww.michrxtech.com/books.html **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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