Lynn -- I say vent away! *laugh* Denise -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn I Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:25 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read You're right. I really did know that when I posted earlier. I've been wanting to vent about this for a very long while. I'm sorry you all had to read my ranting. I know Carrie or staff don't need more duties. *smile* Blessings. Lynnsky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Wagner" <denisecwagner@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read Hi Lynn, You're right -- the standards should probably be a little tighter, but the problem comes in with who will enforce them? Unfortunately, I doubt Carrie has a lot of time to read every book *laugh*. Not to mention, she probably wouldn't want to *joke*. That's probably the only way to ensure there's at least a half-decent copy getting submitted -- have someone from Bookshare actually read them cover-to-cover. Just my two cents, which is worth about half a penny, I think. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read > Hi Mayrie, > > My opinion is that every single title added to the collection should be > read > through at least once, and that it precisely what I do with every book I > submit or proofread. Even so, my scans and proofreads are not perfect, but > I > do try, as many of us here do. > > It really bothers me that someone can earn $2.50 credit by doing the > minimum, while many of us choose to spend hours and hours on a book. > > If I'm not mistaken, book quality issues have kept many from membership in > the past, and it bothers me that the minimum is still tolerated. > > I'm in no way saying that every book has got to be perfect because I have > yet to submit a perfect product, but I believe there needs to be a > tightening of standards. However, I'm not sure just requiring a book to be > held over a day or so before check in will guarantee that the proofreader > actually reads the book. > > Blessings. > > Lynn I > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:24 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read > > > Hi Natasha, > > Unfortunately, I can sympathize with you completely. The people who > proofread in this fashion aren't proofreading at all. I have a hard time > believing that Bookshare is as concerned about excellent quality as the > organization claims to be. All that would have to happen is for the > volunteer manual to specify that a proofreader actually read the book that > he/she checks out. Or at least require a spell check. And if all > proofreaders were required to be on the volunteer list they would learn > about the many issues that the volunteer manual doesn't address such as > protecting chapter headings that are all too often lost because volunteers > don't know that this needs to be done. There arises here the question of > why > the volunteer manual doesn't mention these things. No answer has ever > been > given to this question. > > Many volunteers are not on the e-mail lists. They have no way of > knowing what havoc incomplete knowledge and lazy proofreading cause. I > have > a hard time holding people responsible for what they don't know. But > you'd > think that telling people that they are proofreaders should imply that > they > should be reading books in order to provide the best quality books. > Unfortunately, a book that is "readable" is acceptable to many people. I > don't believe that we should have to, or need to settle for readable any > more. > > I know that I'm preaching to the choir here. It's kind of pointless > to tell people who are doing a thorough job that people need to do a > thorough job. That can too often result in hurt feelings. So, all of you > who read, I'm not talking about you. It's those who don't that frustrate > me > and many others. > > Mayrie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Natasha Baebler > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:01 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read > > The two books i submitted earlier today have already been accepted into > the > collection! *shakes head* Both books were over 300 pages and were checked > in, in the case of one, less than an hour after I submitted it. > > *sigh* I try guys, really I do. This is the kind of situation that makes > me > wish books couldn't be checked in the same day they're checked out. > > *sigh* > > I hope they're ok... > > Natasha and Guide Dog Fossey > Check out my books on Goodreads: > http://www.goodreads.com/profile/guidingpaws > > "Footsteps in the snow > suggest where you have been, > Point where you are going, > But where they suddenly vanish, > Never dismiss the possibility of flight." > ~Book of Night With Moon, ch. 11, V. 3 > ~ as quoted in A Wizard Alone, by Diane Duane > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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