[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 02:48:46 -0500

I think it’s also dryer out there.  Although I still like the idea of Josh 
commuting between New Mexico and Knoxville all the time *lol*.  Just because 
he’s Josh.  
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> I used to live in New Mexico and the adobe houses are lovely and sturdy 
> structures.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Thomas McMahan <mailto:thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:03 PM
>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>> 
>> There are a lot of them in New Mexico if you would like to move to that 
>> neighborhood, all it would be a long commute to go visit your current 
>> friends and family.  But it’s an option.  
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe there is a house similar to an adobe over near where my parents 
>>> live.
>>>  
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>>> Well you could, but it wouldn’t be a frame as you know it in that area.  
>>> How about an adobe?  Although I don’t think that’s going to work well in 
>>> Tennessee, but hey if you wanna try it *lol*.  
>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick 
>>>> *LOL*.
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>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>>> Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely 
>>>> produces a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much 
>>>> more reasonable down there.  
>>>> Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually 
>>>> want in the process.  
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it 
>>>>> was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon 
>>>>> today. We were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it 
>>>>> was not the one right now. If for some reason the offer falls through 
>>>>> that they had then we may reconsider, but not interested in having to 
>>>>> rush into the decision. 
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
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>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>>>> Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house.  Termites or carpenter 
>>>>> ants.  What is the wood on the outside?  Our’s is cedar shakes, because 
>>>>> they do repell termites to a degree.  We’ve had two years when they 
>>>>> swormed outside, but so far didn’t take to being here.  
>>>>> You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem 
>>>>> and apparently save money too.  
>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot 
>>>>>> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking 
>>>>>> about the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be 
>>>>>> the ones living in the house and she is going to go on about her day 
>>>>>> selling houses. So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite 
>>>>>> problem due to water problems under the house then we are going to be 
>>>>>> the ones with a rotted out floor and she is going to be just fine 
>>>>>> selling her houses. The conversation that I had with her pretty much 
>>>>>> just laid it out. When we walked in with my parents on the second 
>>>>>> showing the only remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why 
>>>>>> she said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this 
>>>>>> house she was insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. 
>>>>>> However, my dad said that at one time it had seal heat because above 
>>>>>> every light switch there is a splot of paint. The areas where they 
>>>>>> needed to patch the walls they threw some mud on the wall and painted 
>>>>>> it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded down that before 
>>>>>> painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put baseboard 
>>>>>> up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that 
>>>>>> out, he said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the real 
>>>>>> stuff. So, all though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate 
>>>>>> controlled sunroom to live in.     
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>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
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>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>>>>> Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because 
>>>>>> they are expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any 
>>>>>> damage that occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new 
>>>>>> foundation.  
>>>>>> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain 
>>>>>> water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud 
>>>>>> yards though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  
>>>>>> But yes grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and 
>>>>>> sand become your friends.  
>>>>>> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n 
>>>>>> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all 
>>>>>> surface, or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a 
>>>>>> problem.  I know about this because we live in a house with no basement. 
>>>>>>  We do have attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring 
>>>>>> through to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here.  If 
>>>>>> you can deal with that, and know it’s that way some things can be a lot 
>>>>>> easier to work on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and you add to 
>>>>>> the house, it’s going to be interesting.  
>>>>>> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might 
>>>>>> want to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some 
>>>>>> cheap space heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I 
>>>>>> live, but I also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do 
>>>>>> since we have animals and I don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now 
>>>>>> Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365 days of the year if I would let her.  
>>>>>> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher 
>>>>>> price?  The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider 
>>>>>> that interest.  But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through 
>>>>>> too.  
>>>>>> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional. 
>>>>>>  We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll 
>>>>>> seriously consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said 
>>>>>> she would prefer a ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable 
>>>>>> to us was incredibly small and had serious foundation problems, and a 
>>>>>> friend of mine said the furnaced needed to be replace yesterday.  Well 
>>>>>> we replaced the one in here too, but we did that because we wanted 
>>>>>> central air conditioning.  This place was more than 3000 cheaper and has 
>>>>>> a lot larger rooms and more rooms of course since there’s an upstairs, 
>>>>>> so a lot more bang for the buck.  
>>>>>> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
>>>>>> advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass 
>>>>>> wiring along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what 
>>>>>> concerns me about the second place you’re looking at  
>>>>>> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place 
>>>>>> you’re going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with 
>>>>>> it.  Our first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of 
>>>>>> fixing up too, but I am planning on getting more of that done this year 
>>>>>> hopefully.  We definitely have a list of projects to do.
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in 
>>>>>>> the last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two 
>>>>>>> different houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it 
>>>>>>> because the foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low 
>>>>>>> to the ground. Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here 
>>>>>>> and this one my dad could not have even gotten under the house on his 
>>>>>>> stomach. So, that put the vents that are under the house close to the 
>>>>>>> ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going into the vents 
>>>>>>> is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like a 
>>>>>>> beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the 
>>>>>>> log cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition 
>>>>>>> to the low foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it 
>>>>>>> prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear in the 
>>>>>>> backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with 
>>>>>>> us. I still to this day would love to have been able to in good 
>>>>>>> conscience put an offer on the house. However, the headaches that are 
>>>>>>> likely to occur with this home are not worth it. I know this will be a 
>>>>>>> shocker to hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over 
>>>>>>> this house *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this 
>>>>>>> house, she said we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a 
>>>>>>> mistake. I told her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said 
>>>>>>> I have shown you all 20 houses and this one you all loved. I felt like 
>>>>>>> telling her that this is a clear example of why love at first sight is 
>>>>>>> not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. What I did tell her since she 
>>>>>>> wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us 20 houses was yes she 
>>>>>>> has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out of 20 houses 
>>>>>>> she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to put an 
>>>>>>> offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot 
>>>>>>> imagine that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one 
>>>>>>> that we will like in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more 
>>>>>>> on the ball than she had been being. In fact always in the pat she has 
>>>>>>> said about any questions we have I will find out for you when I get 
>>>>>>> back to the office. However, last night she made calls and got answers 
>>>>>>> for us before we left. She was a lot more sociable last night as well. 
>>>>>>> I think she knows that she was very close to losing out on  some money 
>>>>>>> and even mor concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause for 
>>>>>>> her. I ended the phone call with her by telling her that I understand 
>>>>>>> that she is getting tired, but she knows our criteria and we are going 
>>>>>>> to continue looking. The house last night was almost 20,000 less than 
>>>>>>> the house that she was pushing on us. We loved a lot about the house. 
>>>>>>> However, Amanda and I did not feel like this one was the one. One of 
>>>>>>> the major things that concerned me was the fact there was no attic and 
>>>>>>> there was no basement. The layout was nice though. It had a huge deck 
>>>>>>> and French doors that opened up onto it from the master. It also had 
>>>>>>> French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the deck. 
>>>>>>> However, there was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate 
>>>>>>> agent told me today before we decided to place an offer on the house 
>>>>>>> that she noticed a crack on the foundation in a few different places. 
>>>>>>> My dad said that could be remedied, but I do not know how much of a 
>>>>>>> headache that is going to be. So, foundational problems kocked it out 
>>>>>>> of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right across the 
>>>>>>> street from the elementary school so that was really nice. If the offer 
>>>>>>> that has been placed on it falls through then we may go back and 
>>>>>>> consider it later once we have some time to think about it. So, that is 
>>>>>>> where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though everyone 
>>>>>>> wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go 
>>>>>>> and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has 
>>>>>>> sold or pending sell.           
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