I think it’s also dryer out there. Although I still like the idea of Josh commuting between New Mexico and Knoxville all the time *lol*. Just because he’s Josh. > On Mar 4, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Julie Dawson <julie.magnolia@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > I used to live in New Mexico and the adobe houses are lovely and sturdy > structures. > Live simply, > Love generously, > Care deeply, > Speak kindly > And leave the rest to God! > Please join me on > www.nfblive.org <http://www.nfblive.org/> > where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together "we can > live the life we want." > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Thomas McMahan <mailto:thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx> >> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:03 PM >> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >> >> There are a lot of them in New Mexico if you would like to move to that >> neighborhood, all it would be a long commute to go visit your current >> friends and family. But it’s an option. >> >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> I believe there is a house similar to an adobe over near where my parents >>> live. >>> >>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:22 PM >>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >>> Well you could, but it wouldn’t be a frame as you know it in that area. >>> How about an adobe? Although I don’t think that’s going to work well in >>> Tennessee, but hey if you wanna try it *lol*. >>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick >>>> *LOL*. >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:54 PM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >>>> Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely >>>> produces a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much >>>> more reasonable down there. >>>> Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually >>>> want in the process. >>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it >>>>> was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon >>>>> today. We were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it >>>>> was not the one right now. If for some reason the offer falls through >>>>> that they had then we may reconsider, but not interested in having to >>>>> rush into the decision. >>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:20 PM >>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >>>>> Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house. Termites or carpenter >>>>> ants. What is the wood on the outside? Our’s is cedar shakes, because >>>>> they do repell termites to a degree. We’ve had two years when they >>>>> swormed outside, but so far didn’t take to being here. >>>>> You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem >>>>> and apparently save money too. >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot >>>>>> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking >>>>>> about the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be >>>>>> the ones living in the house and she is going to go on about her day >>>>>> selling houses. So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite >>>>>> problem due to water problems under the house then we are going to be >>>>>> the ones with a rotted out floor and she is going to be just fine >>>>>> selling her houses. The conversation that I had with her pretty much >>>>>> just laid it out. When we walked in with my parents on the second >>>>>> showing the only remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why >>>>>> she said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this >>>>>> house she was insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. >>>>>> However, my dad said that at one time it had seal heat because above >>>>>> every light switch there is a splot of paint. The areas where they >>>>>> needed to patch the walls they threw some mud on the wall and painted >>>>>> it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded down that before >>>>>> painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put baseboard >>>>>> up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that >>>>>> out, he said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the real >>>>>> stuff. So, all though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate >>>>>> controlled sunroom to live in. >>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:21 AM >>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >>>>>> Foundations are the most common problem you will find. Why, because >>>>>> they are expensive to replace. Not only the foundation itself, but any >>>>>> damage that occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new >>>>>> foundation. >>>>>> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain >>>>>> water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding. The solid mud >>>>>> yards though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard. >>>>>> But yes grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and >>>>>> sand become your friends. >>>>>> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n >>>>>> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all >>>>>> surface, or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a >>>>>> problem. I know about this because we live in a house with no basement. >>>>>> We do have attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring >>>>>> through to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here. If >>>>>> you can deal with that, and know it’s that way some things can be a lot >>>>>> easier to work on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and you add to >>>>>> the house, it’s going to be interesting. >>>>>> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might >>>>>> want to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some >>>>>> cheap space heaters. Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I >>>>>> live, but I also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do >>>>>> since we have animals and I don’t like to ever step in surprises. Now >>>>>> Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365 days of the year if I would let her. >>>>>> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher >>>>>> price? The bigger the ticket the more she gets too. Gotta consider >>>>>> that interest. But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through >>>>>> too. >>>>>> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional. >>>>>> We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll >>>>>> seriously consider moving to a different place. Years ago Patti said >>>>>> she would prefer a ranch style house. But the one that was affordable >>>>>> to us was incredibly small and had serious foundation problems, and a >>>>>> friend of mine said the furnaced needed to be replace yesterday. Well >>>>>> we replaced the one in here too, but we did that because we wanted >>>>>> central air conditioning. This place was more than 3000 cheaper and has >>>>>> a lot larger rooms and more rooms of course since there’s an upstairs, >>>>>> so a lot more bang for the buck. >>>>>> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be >>>>>> advantages to a ranch style house. As long as there’s a way to pass >>>>>> wiring along, whether basement attic or crawl space. That is what >>>>>> concerns me about the second place you’re looking at >>>>>> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that. It’s a place >>>>>> you’re going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with >>>>>> it. Our first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of >>>>>> fixing up too, but I am planning on getting more of that done this year >>>>>> hopefully. We definitely have a list of projects to do. >>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in >>>>>>> the last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two >>>>>>> different houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it >>>>>>> because the foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low >>>>>>> to the ground. Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here >>>>>>> and this one my dad could not have even gotten under the house on his >>>>>>> stomach. So, that put the vents that are under the house close to the >>>>>>> ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going into the vents >>>>>>> is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like a >>>>>>> beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the >>>>>>> log cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition >>>>>>> to the low foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it >>>>>>> prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear in the >>>>>>> backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with >>>>>>> us. I still to this day would love to have been able to in good >>>>>>> conscience put an offer on the house. However, the headaches that are >>>>>>> likely to occur with this home are not worth it. I know this will be a >>>>>>> shocker to hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over >>>>>>> this house *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this >>>>>>> house, she said we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a >>>>>>> mistake. I told her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said >>>>>>> I have shown you all 20 houses and this one you all loved. I felt like >>>>>>> telling her that this is a clear example of why love at first sight is >>>>>>> not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. What I did tell her since she >>>>>>> wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us 20 houses was yes she >>>>>>> has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out of 20 houses >>>>>>> she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to put an >>>>>>> offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot >>>>>>> imagine that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one >>>>>>> that we will like in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more >>>>>>> on the ball than she had been being. In fact always in the pat she has >>>>>>> said about any questions we have I will find out for you when I get >>>>>>> back to the office. However, last night she made calls and got answers >>>>>>> for us before we left. She was a lot more sociable last night as well. >>>>>>> I think she knows that she was very close to losing out on some money >>>>>>> and even mor concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause for >>>>>>> her. I ended the phone call with her by telling her that I understand >>>>>>> that she is getting tired, but she knows our criteria and we are going >>>>>>> to continue looking. The house last night was almost 20,000 less than >>>>>>> the house that she was pushing on us. We loved a lot about the house. >>>>>>> However, Amanda and I did not feel like this one was the one. One of >>>>>>> the major things that concerned me was the fact there was no attic and >>>>>>> there was no basement. The layout was nice though. It had a huge deck >>>>>>> and French doors that opened up onto it from the master. It also had >>>>>>> French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the deck. >>>>>>> However, there was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate >>>>>>> agent told me today before we decided to place an offer on the house >>>>>>> that she noticed a crack on the foundation in a few different places. >>>>>>> My dad said that could be remedied, but I do not know how much of a >>>>>>> headache that is going to be. So, foundational problems kocked it out >>>>>>> of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right across the >>>>>>> street from the elementary school so that was really nice. If the offer >>>>>>> that has been placed on it falls through then we may go back and >>>>>>> consider it later once we have some time to think about it. So, that is >>>>>>> where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though everyone >>>>>>> wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go >>>>>>> and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has >>>>>>> sold or pending sell. >> >