[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:19:35 -0500

Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house.  Termites or carpenter ants.  
What is the wood on the outside?  Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do repell 
termites to a degree.  We’ve had two years when they swormed outside, but so 
far didn’t take to being here.  

You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem and 
apparently save money too.  
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot 
> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking about 
> the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be the ones 
> living in the house and she is going to go on about her day selling houses. 
> So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite problem due to water 
> problems under the house then we are going to be the ones with a rotted out 
> floor and she is going to be just fine selling her houses. The conversation 
> that I had with her pretty much just laid it out. When we walked in with my 
> parents on the second showing the only remark she made was I would buy this 
> house … guess why she said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she 
> would buy this house she was insisting on us buying because it had a red 
> kitchen. However, my dad said that at one time it had seal heat because above 
> every light switch there is a splot of paint. The areas where they needed to 
> patch the walls they threw some mud on the wall and painted it. Um. I think 
> they should have probably sanded down that before painting it. Then finally, 
> for some reason or another they put baseboard up all the way around the 
> ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that out, he said for another $20 
> each piece they could have put up the real stuff. So, all though the sunroom 
> was nice, I need more than a climate controlled sunroom to live in.     
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> Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because they are 
> expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any damage that 
> occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new foundation.  
> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain water 
> away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud yards 
> though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  But yes 
> grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and sand become 
> your friends.  
> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n 
> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all surface, 
> or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a problem.  I 
> know about this because we live in a house with no basement.  We do have 
> attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring through to upstairs, 
> but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here.  If you can deal with that, and 
> know it’s that way some things can be a lot easier to work on, but if the 
> wiring is all in the wall and you add to the house, it’s going to be 
> interesting.  
> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might want 
> to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some cheap space 
> heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I live, but I also 
> suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since we have animals and 
> I don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365 
> days of the year if I would let her.  
> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher price? 
>  The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider that interest.  
> But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.  
> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional.  We 
> have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll seriously 
> consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said she would prefer 
> a ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable to us was incredibly 
> small and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of mine said the 
> furnaced needed to be replace yesterday.  Well we replaced the one in here 
> too, but we did that because we wanted central air conditioning.  This place 
> was more than 3000 cheaper and has a lot larger rooms and more rooms of 
> course since there’s an upstairs, so a lot more bang for the buck.  
> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
> advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass wiring 
> along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what concerns me about 
> the second place you’re looking at  
> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place you’re 
> going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it.  Our 
> first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, but 
> I am planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully.  We 
> definitely have a list of projects to do.
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in the 
>> last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two different 
>> houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it because the 
>> foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low to the ground. 
>> Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here and this one my dad 
>> could not have even gotten under the house on his stomach. So, that put the 
>> vents that are under the house close to the ground as well, when it rains 
>> the likelihood of it going into the vents is high and we do not want water 
>> under the house. It seemed like a beautiful home though otherwise. The part 
>> I liked most about it was the log cabin style sun room that was on the back 
>> of the house. In addition to the low foundation it also had so many trees in 
>> the yard that it prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear 
>> in the backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with 
>> us. I still to this day would love to have been able to in good conscience 
>> put an offer on the house. However, the headaches that are likely to occur 
>> with this home are not worth it. I know this will be a shocker to hear, but 
>> my real estate agent and I exchanged words over this house *LOL*. She was 
>> being pretty insistent on us buying this house, she said we are makinga 
>> mistake. She kept saying we are making a mistake. I told her well then I 
>> guess we are making a mistake. She said I have shown you all 20 houses and 
>> this one you all loved. I felt like telling her that this is a clear example 
>> of why love at first sight is not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. What I 
>> did tell her since she wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us 20 
>> houses was yes she has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out 
>> of 20 houses she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to 
>> put an offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot 
>> imagine that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one that we 
>> will like in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more on the ball 
>> than she had been being. In fact always in the pat she has said about any 
>> questions we have I will find out for you when I get back to the office. 
>> However, last night she made calls and got answers for us before we left. 
>> She was a lot more sociable last night as well. I think she knows that she 
>> was very close to losing out on  some money and even mor concerned about the 
>> bad advertisement it could cause for her. I ended the phone call with her by 
>> telling her that I understand that she is getting tired, but she knows our 
>> criteria and we are going to continue looking. The house last night was 
>> almost 20,000 less than the house that she was pushing on us. We loved a lot 
>> about the house. However, Amanda and I did not feel like this one was the 
>> one. One of the major things that concerned me was the fact there was no 
>> attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice though. It had a huge 
>> deck and French doors that opened up onto it from the master. It also had 
>> French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the deck. However, 
>> there was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate agent told me 
>> today before we decided to place an offer on the house that she noticed a 
>> crack on the foundation in a few different places. My dad said that could be 
>> remedied, but I do not know how much of a headache that is going to be. So, 
>> foundational problems kocked it out of the considerations. It wassitting on 
>> flat land right across the street from the elementary school so that was 
>> really nice. If the offer that has been placed on it falls through then we 
>> may go back and consider it later once we have some time to think about it. 
>> So, that is where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though 
>> everyone wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to 
>> go and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has 
>> sold or pending sell.           

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