[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: "Josh" <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:46:40 -0400

Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot crawl 
space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking about the one 
with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be the ones living in 
the house and she is going to go on about her day selling houses. So, when the 
floor joints rot out or we get a termite problem due to water problems under 
the house then we are going to be the ones with a rotted out floor and she is 
going to be just fine selling her houses. The conversation that I had with her 
pretty much just laid it out. When we walked in with my parents on the second 
showing the only remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why she 
said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she was 
insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said that 
at one time it had seal heat because above every light switch there is a splot 
of paint. The areas where they needed to patch the walls they threw some mud on 
the wall and painted it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded down that 
before painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put baseboard 
up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that out, he 
said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the real stuff. So, all 
though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate controlled sunroom to 
live in.     


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On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:21 AM
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Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update


Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because they are 
expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any damage that 
occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new foundation.  


The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain water 
away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud yards though 
are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  But yes grass 
doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and sand become your 


Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n basement, 
and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all surface, or are going 
to be very difficult to work on should there be a problem.  I know about this 
because we live in a house with no basement.  We do have attic, a small one, 
and that is how they pass warring through to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is 
surface mount in here.  If you can deal with that, and know it’s that way some 
things can be a lot easier to work on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and 
you add to the house, it’s going to be interesting.  


House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might want to 
think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some cheap space 
heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I live, but I also 
suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since we have animals and I 
don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365 
days of the year if I would let her.  


She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher price?  
The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider that interest.  
But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.  


We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional.  We 
have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll seriously 
consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said she would prefer a 
ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable to us was incredibly small 
and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of mine said the furnaced 
needed to be replace yesterday.  Well we replaced the one in here too, but we 
did that because we wanted central air conditioning.  This place was more than 
3000 cheaper and has a lot larger rooms and more rooms of course since there’s 
an upstairs, so a lot more bang for the buck.  


But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass wiring 
along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what concerns me about 
the second place you’re looking at  


Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place you’re going 
to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it.  Our first 
place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, but I am 
planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully.  We definitely have 
a list of projects to do.



On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in the last 
week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two different houses. 
The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it because the foundation was 
almost on the ground this house sat so low to the ground. Most houses have at 
least a 2 ft. clearance around here and this one my dad could not have even 
gotten under the house on his stomach. So, that put the vents that are under 
the house close to the ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going 
into the vents is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like 
a beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the log 
cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition to the low 
foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it prevented any grass 
from growing where the ground was clear in the backyard. So, both times we went 
outside we brought mud back in with us. I still to this day would love to have 
been able to in good conscience put an offer on the house. However, the 
headaches that are likely to occur with this home are not worth it. I know this 
will be a shocker to hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over 
this house *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this house, she 
said we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a mistake. I told 
her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said I have shown you all 20 
houses and this one you all loved. I felt like telling her that this is a clear 
example of why love at first sight is not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. 
What I did tell her since she wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us 
20 houses was yes she has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out 
of 20 houses she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to put 
an offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot imagine 
that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one that we will like 
in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more on the ball than she had 
been being. In fact always in the pat she has said about any questions we have 
I will find out for you when I get back to the office. However, last night she 
made calls and got answers for us before we left. She was a lot more sociable 
last night as well. I think she knows that she was very close to losing out on  
some money and even mor concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause 
for her. I ended the phone call with her by telling her that I understand that 
she is getting tired, but she knows our criteria and we are going to continue 
looking. The house last night was almost 20,000 less than the house that she 
was pushing on us. We loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did 
not feel like this one was the one. One of the major things that concerned me 
was the fact there was no attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice 
though. It had a huge deck and French doors that opened up onto it from the 
master. It also had French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the 
deck. However, there was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate 
agent told me today before we decided to place an offer on the house that she 
noticed a crack on the foundation in a few different places. My dad said that 
could be remedied, but I do not know how much of a headache that is going to 
be. So, foundational problems kocked it out of the considerations. It 
wassitting on flat land right across the street from the elementary school so 
that was really nice. If the offer that has been placed on it falls through 
then we may go back and consider it later once we have some time to think about 
it. So, that is where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though 
everyone wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go 
and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has sold or 
pending sell.           


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