[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: "Julie Dawson" <julie.magnolia@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:23:49 -0900

You are right. And those termites are ever a trial.
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  From: Josh 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:14 PM
  Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update

  Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick *LOL*.


  From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
  Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:54 PM
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  Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update


  Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely produces 
a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much more 
reasonable down there.  


  Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually 
want in the process.  

    On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


    I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it 
was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon today. We 
were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it was not the one 
right now. If for some reason the offer falls through that they had then we may 
reconsider, but not interested in having to rush into the decision. 


    From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
    Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:20 PM
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    Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update


    Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house.  Termites or carpenter ants.  
What is the wood on the outside?  Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do repell 
termites to a degree.  We’ve had two years when they swormed outside, but so 
far didn’t take to being here.  


    You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem and 
apparently save money too.  

      On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


      Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot 
crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking about 
the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be the ones 
living in the house and she is going to go on about her day selling houses. So, 
when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite problem due to water problems 
under the house then we are going to be the ones with a rotted out floor and 
she is going to be just fine selling her houses. The conversation that I had 
with her pretty much just laid it out. When we walked in with my parents on the 
second showing the only remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why 
she said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she 
was insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said 
that at one time it had seal heat because above every light switch there is a 
splot of paint. The areas where they needed to patch the walls they threw some 
mud on the wall and painted it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded 
down that before painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put 
baseboard up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed 
that out, he said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the real 
stuff. So, all though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate 
controlled sunroom to live in.     


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      Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:21 AM
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      Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update


      Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because they 
are expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any damage that 
occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new foundation.  


      The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain 
water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud yards 
though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  But yes 
grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and sand become your 


      Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n 
basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all surface, or 
are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a problem.  I know 
about this because we live in a house with no basement.  We do have attic, a 
small one, and that is how they pass warring through to upstairs, but a lot of 
stuff is surface mount in here.  If you can deal with that, and know it’s that 
way some things can be a lot easier to work on, but if the wiring is all in the 
wall and you add to the house, it’s going to be interesting.  


      House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might 
want to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some cheap 
space heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I live, but I 
also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since we have animals 
and I don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now Pat would go barefooted 24 7 
365 days of the year if I would let her.  


      She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher 
price?  The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider that 
interest.  But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.  


      We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional.  
We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll seriously 
consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said she would prefer a 
ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable to us was incredibly small 
and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of mine said the furnaced 
needed to be replace yesterday.  Well we replaced the one in here too, but we 
did that because we wanted central air conditioning.  This place was more than 
3000 cheaper and has a lot larger rooms and more rooms of course since there’s 
an upstairs, so a lot more bang for the buck.  


      But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass wiring 
along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what concerns me about 
the second place you’re looking at  


      Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place you’re 
going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it.  Our 
first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, but I 
am planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully.  We definitely 
have a list of projects to do.



        On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


        Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in 
the last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two different 
houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it because the 
foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low to the ground. Most 
houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here and this one my dad could 
not have even gotten under the house on his stomach. So, that put the vents 
that are under the house close to the ground as well, when it rains the 
likelihood of it going into the vents is high and we do not want water under 
the house. It seemed like a beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked 
most about it was the log cabin style sun room that was on the back of the 
house. In addition to the low foundation it also had so many trees in the yard 
that it prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear in the 
backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with us. I 
still to this day would love to have been able to in good conscience put an 
offer on the house. However, the headaches that are likely to occur with this 
home are not worth it. I know this will be a shocker to hear, but my real 
estate agent and I exchanged words over this house *LOL*. She was being pretty 
insistent on us buying this house, she said we are makinga mistake. She kept 
saying we are making a mistake. I told her well then I guess we are making a 
mistake. She said I have shown you all 20 houses and this one you all loved. I 
felt like telling her that this is a clear example of why love at first sight 
is not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. What I did tell her since she wanted 
to throw up the fact that she has shown us 20 houses was yes she has shown us 
20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out of 20 houses she has shown us we 
have only been excited about and ready to put an offer on 1. I told her out of 
all the houses in Knoxville I cannot imagine that the house she is insisting 
that we buy is the only one that we will like in Knoxville. The next time we 
saw her she was more on the ball than she had been being. In fact always in the 
pat she has said about any questions we have I will find out for you when I get 
back to the office. However, last night she made calls and got answers for us 
before we left. She was a lot more sociable last night as well. I think she 
knows that she was very close to losing out on  some money and even mor 
concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause for her. I ended the phone 
call with her by telling her that I understand that she is getting tired, but 
she knows our criteria and we are going to continue looking. The house last 
night was almost 20,000 less than the house that she was pushing on us. We 
loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did not feel like this one 
was the one. One of the major things that concerned me was the fact there was 
no attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice though. It had a huge 
deck and French doors that opened up onto it from the master. It also had 
French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the deck. However, there 
was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate agent told me today 
before we decided to place an offer on the house that she noticed a crack on 
the foundation in a few different places. My dad said that could be remedied, 
but I do not know how much of a headache that is going to be. So, foundational 
problems kocked it out of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right 
across the street from the elementary school so that was really nice. If the 
offer that has been placed on it falls through then we may go back and consider 
it later once we have some time to think about it. So, that is where we are in 
the house buying journey. It seems as though everyone wants a rancher because 
we have had several that we have set up to go and look at only to have the 
agent call us back and tell us that it has sold or pending sell.           


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