[audio-pals] Re: Update
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- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:48:46 -0400
I believe there is a house similar to an adobe over near where my parents live.
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Well you could, but it wouldn’t be a frame as you know it in that area. How
about an adobe? Although I don’t think that’s going to work well in Tennessee,
but hey if you wanna try it *lol*.
On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick *LOL*.
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Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely produces a
lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much more reasonable
down there.
Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually want
in the process.
On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it was
mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon today. We
were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it was not the one
right now. If for some reason the offer falls through that they had then we may
reconsider, but not interested in having to rush into the decision.
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Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house. Termites or carpenter ants.
What is the wood on the outside? Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do repell
termites to a degree. We’ve had two years when they swormed outside, but so
far didn’t take to being here.
You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem and
apparently save money too.
On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot crawl
space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking about the one
with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be the ones living in
the house and she is going to go on about her day selling houses. So, when the
floor joints rot out or we get a termite problem due to water problems under
the house then we are going to be the ones with a rotted out floor and she is
going to be just fine selling her houses. The conversation that I had with her
pretty much just laid it out. When we walked in with my parents on the second
showing the only remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why she
said… wait for it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she was
insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said that
at one time it had seal heat because above every light switch there is a splot
of paint. The areas where they needed to patch the walls they threw some mud on
the wall and painted it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded down that
before painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put baseboard
up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that out, he
said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the real stuff. So, all
though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate controlled sunroom to
live in.
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Foundations are the most common problem you will find. Why, because they are
expensive to replace. Not only the foundation itself, but any damage that
occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new foundation.
The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain water
away, then that is less of a problem for flooding. The solid mud yards though
are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard. But yes grass
doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and sand become your
friends.
Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n basement,
and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all surface, or are going
to be very difficult to work on should there be a problem. I know about this
because we live in a house with no basement. We do have attic, a small one,
and that is how they pass warring through to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is
surface mount in here. If you can deal with that, and know it’s that way some
things can be a lot easier to work on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and
you add to the house, it’s going to be interesting.
House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might want to
think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some cheap space
heaters. Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I live, but I also
suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since we have animals and I
don’t like to ever step in surprises. Now Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365
days of the year if I would let her.
She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher price?
The bigger the ticket the more she gets too. Gotta consider that interest.
But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.
We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional. We
have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll seriously
consider moving to a different place. Years ago Patti said she would prefer a
ranch style house. But the one that was affordable to us was incredibly small
and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of mine said the furnaced
needed to be replace yesterday. Well we replaced the one in here too, but we
did that because we wanted central air conditioning. This place was more than
3000 cheaper and has a lot larger rooms and more rooms of course since there’s
an upstairs, so a lot more bang for the buck.
But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be
advantages to a ranch style house. As long as there’s a way to pass wiring
along, whether basement attic or crawl space. That is what concerns me about
the second place you’re looking at
Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that. It’s a place you’re going
to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it. Our first
place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, but I am
planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully. We definitely have
a list of projects to do.
On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh < <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>
lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in the last
week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two different houses.
The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it because the foundation was
almost on the ground this house sat so low to the ground. Most houses have at
least a 2 ft. clearance around here and this one my dad could not have even
gotten under the house on his stomach. So, that put the vents that are under
the house close to the ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going
into the vents is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like
a beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the log
cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition to the low
foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it prevented any grass
from growing where the ground was clear in the backyard. So, both times we went
outside we brought mud back in with us. I still to this day would love to have
been able to in good conscience put an offer on the house. However, the
headaches that are likely to occur with this home are not worth it. I know this
will be a shocker to hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over
this house *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this house, she
said we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a mistake. I told
her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said I have shown you all 20
houses and this one you all loved. I felt like telling her that this is a clear
example of why love at first sight is not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not.
What I did tell her since she wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us
20 houses was yes she has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out
of 20 houses she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to put
an offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot imagine
that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one that we will like
in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more on the ball than she had
been being. In fact always in the pat she has said about any questions we have
I will find out for you when I get back to the office. However, last night she
made calls and got answers for us before we left. She was a lot more sociable
last night as well. I think she knows that she was very close to losing out on
some money and even mor concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause
for her. I ended the phone call with her by telling her that I understand that
she is getting tired, but she knows our criteria and we are going to continue
looking. The house last night was almost 20,000 less than the house that she
was pushing on us. We loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did
not feel like this one was the one. One of the major things that concerned me
was the fact there was no attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice
though. It had a huge deck and French doors that opened up onto it from the
master. It also had French doors that opened up from the dining room onto the
deck. However, there was cracks all throughout the house and our real estate
agent told me today before we decided to place an offer on the house that she
noticed a crack on the foundation in a few different places. My dad said that
could be remedied, but I do not know how much of a headache that is going to
be. So, foundational problems kocked it out of the considerations. It
wassitting on flat land right across the street from the elementary school so
that was really nice. If the offer that has been placed on it falls through
then we may go back and consider it later once we have some time to think about
it. So, that is where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though
everyone wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go
and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has sold or
pending sell.
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