Well you could rule that they both show up at same place of course, but don’t know of a way to send to both automatically at same time. Just CC them. Yes there was a new person join at missives, but that happens fairly often over there, yet little talk happens. Any audio posted via frilliest though I are over there too so that they aren’t out of the loop. It’s a little weird and awkward with two lists of the same purpose on two different list serves. I just wish Yahoo hadn’t have done what they did, but they did and now here we are with two groups. One that’s a little off with so many people’s e-mail providers, yet easy for people to find and join up, then the other which has fewer e-mail problems but until recently was pretty slow about picking up new people. Well am glad some folks do go through the lists at frilliest, there are a ton of them that’s for sure. time > On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Did I see that a new member joined on the emissives side of things the other > day? I thought I had seen that, but I cannot find the email. I wonder as a > list owner of two different list if there is a way to set up a rule to shunt > emails from emissives to freelist and vice versa so that way emissives is not > excluded from a lot of the chatter that goes on here unless that is the way > they want it. > > From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:54 PM > To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update > > Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely produces > a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much more > reasonable down there. > > Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually > want in the process. >> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it >> was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon today. >> We were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it was not the >> one right now. If for some reason the offer falls through that they had then >> we may reconsider, but not interested in having to rush into the decision. >> >> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:20 PM >> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >> >> Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house. Termites or carpenter ants. >> What is the wood on the outside? Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do >> repell termites to a degree. We’ve had two years when they swormed outside, >> but so far didn’t take to being here. >> >> You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem and >> apparently save money too. >>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot >>> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking >>> about the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be the >>> ones living in the house and she is going to go on about her day selling >>> houses. So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite problem due >>> to water problems under the house then we are going to be the ones with a >>> rotted out floor and she is going to be just fine selling her houses. The >>> conversation that I had with her pretty much just laid it out. When we >>> walked in with my parents on the second showing the only remark she made >>> was I would buy this house … guess why she said… wait for it… are you >>> ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she was insisting on us buying >>> because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said that at one time it had >>> seal heat because above every light switch there is a splot of paint. The >>> areas where they needed to patch the walls they threw some mud on the wall >>> and painted it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded down that >>> before painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another they put >>> baseboard up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed >>> that out, he said for another $20 each piece they could have put up the >>> real stuff. So, all though the sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate >>> controlled sunroom to live in. >>> >>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:21 AM >>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update >>> >>> Foundations are the most common problem you will find. Why, because they >>> are expensive to replace. Not only the foundation itself, but any damage >>> that occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new >>> foundation. >>> >>> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain >>> water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding. The solid mud >>> yards though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard. >>> But yes grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and sand >>> become your friends. >>> >>> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n >>> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all >>> surface, or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a >>> problem. I know about this because we live in a house with no basement. >>> We do have attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring through to >>> upstairs, but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here. If you can deal >>> with that, and know it’s that way some things can be a lot easier to work >>> on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and you add to the house, it’s >>> going to be interesting. >>> >>> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might want >>> to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some cheap >>> space heaters. Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I live, >>> but I also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since we >>> have animals and I don’t like to ever step in surprises. Now Pat would go >>> barefooted 24 7 365 days of the year if I would let her. >>> >>> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher >>> price? The bigger the ticket the more she gets too. Gotta consider that >>> interest. But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too. >>> >>> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional. >>> We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll >>> seriously consider moving to a different place. Years ago Patti said she >>> would prefer a ranch style house. But the one that was affordable to us >>> was incredibly small and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of >>> mine said the furnaced needed to be replace yesterday. Well we replaced >>> the one in here too, but we did that because we wanted central air >>> conditioning. This place was more than 3000 cheaper and has a lot larger >>> rooms and more rooms of course since there’s an upstairs, so a lot more >>> bang for the buck. >>> >>> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be >>> advantages to a ranch style house. As long as there’s a way to pass wiring >>> along, whether basement attic or crawl space. That is what concerns me >>> about the second place you’re looking at >>> >>> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that. It’s a place you’re >>> going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it. Our >>> first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, >>> but I am planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully. We >>> definitely have a list of projects to do. >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in the >>>> last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two different >>>> houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it because the >>>> foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low to the ground. >>>> Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here and this one my >>>> dad could not have even gotten under the house on his stomach. So, that >>>> put the vents that are under the house close to the ground as well, when >>>> it rains the likelihood of it going into the vents is high and we do not >>>> want water under the house. It seemed like a beautiful home though >>>> otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the log cabin style sun room >>>> that was on the back of the house. In addition to the low foundation it >>>> also had so many trees in the yard that it prevented any grass from >>>> growing where the ground was clear in the backyard. So, both times we went >>>> outside we brought mud back in with us. I still to this day would love to >>>> have been able to in good conscience put an offer on the house. However, >>>> the headaches that are likely to occur with this home are not worth it. I >>>> know this will be a shocker to hear, but my real estate agent and I >>>> exchanged words over this house *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on >>>> us buying this house, she said we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we >>>> are making a mistake. I told her well then I guess we are making a >>>> mistake. She said I have shown you all 20 houses and this one you all >>>> loved. I felt like telling her that this is a clear example of why love at >>>> first sight is not lasting *LOL*. However, I did not. What I did tell her >>>> since she wanted to throw up the fact that she has shown us 20 houses was >>>> yes she has shown us 20 houses, but I cannot figure out why out of 20 >>>> houses she has shown us we have only been excited about and ready to put >>>> an offer on 1. I told her out of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot >>>> imagine that the house she is insisting that we buy is the only one that >>>> we will like in Knoxville. The next time we saw her she was more on the >>>> ball than she had been being. In fact always in the pat she has said about >>>> any questions we have I will find out for you when I get back to the >>>> office. However, last night she made calls and got answers for us before >>>> we left. She was a lot more sociable last night as well. I think she knows >>>> that she was very close to losing out on some money and even mor >>>> concerned about the bad advertisement it could cause for her. I ended the >>>> phone call with her by telling her that I understand that she is getting >>>> tired, but she knows our criteria and we are going to continue looking. >>>> The house last night was almost 20,000 less than the house that she was >>>> pushing on us. We loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did >>>> not feel like this one was the one. One of the major things that concerned >>>> me was the fact there was no attic and there was no basement. The layout >>>> was nice though. It had a huge deck and French doors that opened up onto >>>> it from the master. It also had French doors that opened up from the >>>> dining room onto the deck. However, there was cracks all throughout the >>>> house and our real estate agent told me today before we decided to place >>>> an offer on the house that she noticed a crack on the foundation in a few >>>> different places. My dad said that could be remedied, but I do not know >>>> how much of a headache that is going to be. So, foundational problems >>>> kocked it out of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right >>>> across the street from the elementary school so that was really nice. If >>>> the offer that has been placed on it falls through then we may go back and >>>> consider it later once we have some time to think about it. So, that is >>>> where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though everyone >>>> wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go and >>>> look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has sold >>>> or pending sell.