[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: Daniel Crone <averagegrabbag@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:34:21 -0500

I have a sister who was in New Mexico for a few years.
She lived in an adobe house.
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> I used to live in New Mexico and the adobe houses are lovely and sturdy 
> structures.
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> From: Thomas McMahan
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:03 PM
> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
> There are a lot of them in New Mexico if you would like to move to that 
> neighborhood, all it would be a long commute to go visit your current friends 
> and family.  But it’s an option.  
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I believe there is a house similar to an adobe over near where my parents 
>> live.
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>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:22 PM
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>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>> Well you could, but it wouldn’t be a frame as you know it in that area.  How 
>> about an adobe?  Although I don’t think that’s going to work well in 
>> Tennessee, but hey if you wanna try it *lol*.  
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick *LOL*.
>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:54 PM
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>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>> Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely 
>>> produces a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much 
>>> more reasonable down there.  
>>> Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually 
>>> want in the process.  
>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it 
>>>> was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon 
>>>> today. We were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it 
>>>> was not the one right now. If for some reason the offer falls through that 
>>>> they had then we may reconsider, but not interested in having to rush into 
>>>> the decision. 
>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:20 PM
>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>>> Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house.  Termites or carpenter ants. 
>>>>  What is the wood on the outside?  Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do 
>>>> repell termites to a degree.  We’ve had two years when they swormed 
>>>> outside, but so far didn’t take to being here.  
>>>> You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem 
>>>> and apparently save money too.  
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot 
>>>>> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking 
>>>>> about the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be 
>>>>> the ones living in the house and she is going to go on about her day 
>>>>> selling houses. So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite 
>>>>> problem due to water problems under the house then we are going to be the 
>>>>> ones with a rotted out floor and she is going to be just fine selling her 
>>>>> houses. The conversation that I had with her pretty much just laid it 
>>>>> out. When we walked in with my parents on the second showing the only 
>>>>> remark she made was I would buy this house … guess why she said… wait for 
>>>>> it… are you ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she was 
>>>>> insisting on us buying because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said 
>>>>> that at one time it had seal heat because above every light switch there 
>>>>> is a splot of paint. The areas where they needed to patch the walls they 
>>>>> threw some mud on the wall            and painted it. Um. I think they 
>>>>> should have probably sanded down that before painting it. Then finally, 
>>>>> for some reason or another they put baseboard up all the way around the 
>>>>> ceiling. My dad is the one that pointed that out, he said for another $20 
>>>>> each piece they could have put up the real stuff. So, all though the 
>>>>> sunroom was nice, I need more than a climate controlled sunroom to live 
>>>>> in.     
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:21 AM
>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Update
>>>>> Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because they 
>>>>> are expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any damage 
>>>>> that occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new 
>>>>> foundation.  
>>>>> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain 
>>>>> water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud 
>>>>> yards though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  
>>>>> But yes grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and 
>>>>> sand become your friends.  
>>>>> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n 
>>>>> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all 
>>>>> surface, or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a 
>>>>> problem.  I know about this because we live in a house with no basement.  
>>>>> We do have attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring through 
>>>>> to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here.  If you can 
>>>>> deal with that, and know it’s that way some things can be a lot easier to 
>>>>> work on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and you add to the house, 
>>>>> it’s going to be interesting.  
>>>>> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might 
>>>>> want to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some 
>>>>> cheap space heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I 
>>>>> live, but I also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do 
>>>>> since we have animals and I don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now 
>>>>> Pat would go barefooted 24 7 365 days of the year if I would let her.  
>>>>> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher 
>>>>> price?  The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider that 
>>>>> interest.  But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.  
>>>>> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional.  
>>>>> We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll 
>>>>> seriously consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said she 
>>>>> would prefer a ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable to us 
>>>>> was incredibly small and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of 
>>>>> mine said the furnaced needed to be replace yesterday.  Well we replaced 
>>>>> the one in here too, but we did that because we wanted central air 
>>>>> conditioning.  This place was more than 3000 cheaper and has a lot larger 
>>>>> rooms and more rooms of course since there’s an upstairs, so a lot more 
>>>>> bang for the buck.  
>>>>> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
>>>>> advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass 
>>>>> wiring along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what 
>>>>> concerns me about the second place you’re looking at  
>>>>> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place you’re 
>>>>> going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it.  
>>>>> Our first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up 
>>>>> too, but I am planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully.  
>>>>> We definitely have a list of projects to do.
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in 
>>>>>> the last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two 
>>>>>> different houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it 
>>>>>> because the foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low to 
>>>>>> the ground. Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here and 
>>>>>> this one my dad could not have even gotten under the house on his 
>>>>>> stomach. So, that put the vents that are under the house close to the 
>>>>>> ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going into the vents 
>>>>>> is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like a 
>>>>>> beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the 
>>>>>> log cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition 
>>>>>> to the low foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it 
>>>>>> prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear in the 
>>>>>> backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with us. 
>>>>>> I still to this day would love to have been able to in good conscience 
>>>>>> put an offer on the house. However, the headaches that are likely to 
>>>>>> occur with this home are not worth it. I know this will be a shocker to 
>>>>>> hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over this house 
>>>>>> *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this house, she said 
>>>>>> we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a mistake. I told 
>>>>>> her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said I have shown you 
>>>>>> all 20 houses and this one you all loved. I felt like telling her that 
>>>>>> this is a clear example of why love at first sight is not lasting *LOL*. 
>>>>>> However, I did not. What I did tell her since she wanted to throw up the 
>>>>>> fact that she has shown us 20 houses was yes she has shown us 20 houses, 
>>>>>> but I cannot figure out why out of 20 houses she has shown us we have 
>>>>>> only been excited about and ready to put an offer on 1. I told her out 
>>>>>> of all the houses in Knoxville I cannot imagine that the house she is 
>>>>>> insisting that we buy is the only one that we will like in Knoxville. 
>>>>>> The next time we saw her she was more on the ball than she had been 
>>>>>> being. In fact always in the pat she has said about any questions we 
>>>>>> have I will find out for you when I get back to the office. However, 
>>>>>> last night she made calls and got answers for us before we left. She was 
>>>>>> a lot more sociable last night as well. I think she knows that she was 
>>>>>> very close to losing out on  some money and even mor concerned about the 
>>>>>> bad advertisement it could cause for her. I ended the phone call with 
>>>>>> her by telling her that I understand that she is getting tired, but she 
>>>>>> knows our criteria and we are going to continue looking. The house last 
>>>>>> night was almost 20,000 less than the house that she was pushing on us. 
>>>>>> We loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did not feel like 
>>>>>> this one was the one. One of the major things that concerned me was the 
>>>>>> fact there was no attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice 
>>>>>> though. It had a huge deck and French doors that opened up onto it from 
>>>>>> the master. It also had French doors that opened up from the dining room 
>>>>>> onto the deck. However, there was cracks all throughout the house and 
>>>>>> our real estate agent told me today before we decided to place an offer 
>>>>>> on the house that she noticed a crack on the foundation in a few 
>>>>>> different places. My dad said that could be remedied, but I do not know 
>>>>>> how much of a headache that is going to be. So, foundational problems 
>>>>>> kocked it out of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right 
>>>>>> across the street from the elementary school so that was really nice. If 
>>>>>> the offer that has been placed on it falls through then we may go back 
>>>>>> and consider it later once we have some time to think about it. So, that 
>>>>>> is where we are in the house buying journey. It seems as though everyone 
>>>>>> wants a rancher because we have had several that we have set up to go 
>>>>>> and look at only to have the agent call us back and tell us that it has 
>>>>>> sold or pending sell.           

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