[audio-pals] Re: Update

  • From: Thomas McMahan <thomas.mcmahan@xxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:03:00 -0500

There are a lot of them in New Mexico if you would like to move to that 
neighborhood, all it would be a long commute to go visit your current friends 
and family.  But it’s an option.  

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I believe there is a house similar to an adobe over near where my parents 
> live.
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> Well you could, but it wouldn’t be a frame as you know it in that area.  How 
> about an adobe?  Although I don’t think that’s going to work well in 
> Tennessee, but hey if you wanna try it *lol*.  
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
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>> Too bad the entire thing frame and all couldn’t be built out of brick *LOL*.
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>> Okay well that gives you an advantage then, but Tennessee definitely 
>> produces a lot of termites, fortunately though building with brick is much 
>> more reasonable down there.  
>> Yep take your time, because you could actually then find what you actually 
>> want in the process.  
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> I am fairly sure it was vinyl siding, possibly some brick, but I think it 
>>> was mostly vinyl if not all vinyl. The other house is gone as of noon 
>>> today. We were given an opportunity to make an offer, but we decided it was 
>>> not the one right now. If for some reason the offer falls through that they 
>>> had then we may reconsider, but not interested in having to rush into the 
>>> decision. 
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>>> Yep, I have a funny feeling about that house.  Termites or carpenter ants.  
>>> What is the wood on the outside?  Our’s is cedar shakes, because they do 
>>> repell termites to a degree.  We’ve had two years when they swormed 
>>> outside, but so far didn’t take to being here.  
>>> You guys can buy the other place and do that kitchen in red, no problem and 
>>> apparently save money too.  
>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> Well, the second house did not have a basement, but it did have a 2 foot 
>>>> crawl space so enough room to get in there and work if need be. Talking 
>>>> about the one with a low foundation, I told her that we are going to be 
>>>> the ones living in the house and she is going to go on about her day 
>>>> selling houses. So, when the floor joints rot out or we get a termite 
>>>> problem due to water problems under the house then we are going to be the 
>>>> ones with a rotted out floor and she is going to be just fine selling her 
>>>> houses. The conversation that I had with her pretty much just laid it out. 
>>>> When we walked in with my parents on the second showing the only remark 
>>>> she made was I would buy this house … guess why she said… wait for it… are 
>>>> you ready… ok. She said she would buy this house she was insisting on us 
>>>> buying because it had a red kitchen. However, my dad said that at one time 
>>>> it had seal heat because above every light switch there is a splot of 
>>>> paint. The areas where they needed to patch the walls they threw some mud 
>>>> on the wall and painted it. Um. I think they should have probably sanded 
>>>> down that before painting it. Then finally, for some reason or another 
>>>> they put baseboard up all the way around the ceiling. My dad is the one 
>>>> that pointed that out, he said for another $20 each piece they could have 
>>>> put up the real stuff. So, all though the sunroom was nice, I need more 
>>>> than a climate controlled sunroom to live in.     
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>>>> Foundations are the most common problem you will find.  Why, because they 
>>>> are expensive to replace.  Not only the foundation itself, but any damage 
>>>> that occurs while lifting a house or setting it back down on new 
>>>> foundation.  
>>>> The first house that was low, if the land around it is geared to drain 
>>>> water away, then that is less of a problem for flooding.  The solid mud 
>>>> yards though are a clue that it may not be done so well in that regard.  
>>>> But yes grass doesn’t grow well in shaded yards, thus rocks gravel and 
>>>> sand become your friends.  
>>>> Now as for the second house I will bring in another consideration, n 
>>>> basement, and no attic, means either your piping and wiring are all 
>>>> surface, or are going to be very difficult to work on should there be a 
>>>> problem.  I know about this because we live in a house with no basement.  
>>>> We do have attic, a small one, and that is how they pass warring through 
>>>> to upstairs, but a lot of stuff is surface mount in here.  If you can deal 
>>>> with that, and know it’s that way some things can be a lot easier to work 
>>>> on, but if the wiring is all in the wall and you add to the house, it’s 
>>>> going to be interesting.  
>>>> House with no basement can equal cold floors in winter time too, might 
>>>> want to think about baseboard heaters in winter time, or at least some 
>>>> cheap space heaters.  Granted yor temperatures aren’t as cold as where I 
>>>> live, but I also suspect you and Amanda go barefooted more than i do since 
>>>> we have animals and I don’t like to ever step in surprises.  Now Pat would 
>>>> go barefooted 24 7 365 days of the year if I would let her.  
>>>> She may have been pushing the first house simply because it’s a higher 
>>>> price?  The bigger the ticket the more she gets too.  Gotta consider that 
>>>> interest.  But I also think that’s why so many deals fall through too.  
>>>> We’ve paid for our home now, it was a 15 year loan, so non conventional.  
>>>> We have a lot of little jobs to do on it, then once done maybe we’ll 
>>>> seriously consider moving to a different place.  Years ago Patti said she 
>>>> would prefer a ranch style house.  But the one that was affordable to us 
>>>> was incredibly small and had serious foundation problems, and a friend of 
>>>> mine said the furnaced needed to be replace yesterday.  Well we replaced 
>>>> the one in here too, but we did that because we wanted central air 
>>>> conditioning.  This place was more than 3000 cheaper and has a lot larger 
>>>> rooms and more rooms of course since there’s an upstairs, so a lot more 
>>>> bang for the buck.  
>>>> But yes some time down the line we may consider moving, there would be 
>>>> advantages to a ranch style house.  As long as there’s a way to pass 
>>>> wiring along, whether basement attic or crawl space.  That is what 
>>>> concerns me about the second place you’re looking at  
>>>> Keep looking if you have to, you can always do that.  It’s a place you’re 
>>>> going to be living in, you are going to have to be satisfied with it.  Our 
>>>> first place is a fixer upper, it still needs a good bit of fixing up too, 
>>>> but I am planning on getting more of that done this year hopefully.  We 
>>>> definitely have a list of projects to do.
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> Well, I put it at the bottom of the introduction to Neesie, but her in 
>>>>> the last week we have been inches away from placing an offer on two 
>>>>> different houses. The first one my dad kind of steered us away from it 
>>>>> because the foundation was almost on the ground this house sat so low to 
>>>>> the ground. Most houses have at least a 2 ft. clearance around here and 
>>>>> this one my dad could not have even gotten under the house on his 
>>>>> stomach. So, that put the vents that are under the house close to the 
>>>>> ground as well, when it rains the likelihood of it going into the vents 
>>>>> is high and we do not want water under the house. It seemed like a 
>>>>> beautiful home though otherwise. The part I liked most about it was the 
>>>>> log cabin style sun room that was on the back of the house. In addition 
>>>>> to the low foundation it also had so many trees in the yard that it 
>>>>> prevented any grass from growing where the ground was clear in the 
>>>>> backyard. So, both times we went outside we brought mud back in with us. 
>>>>> I still to this day would love to have been able to in good conscience 
>>>>> put an offer on the house. However, the headaches that are likely to 
>>>>> occur with this home are not worth it. I know this will be a shocker to 
>>>>> hear, but my real estate agent and I exchanged words over this house 
>>>>> *LOL*. She was being pretty insistent on us buying this house, she said 
>>>>> we are makinga mistake. She kept saying we are making a mistake. I told 
>>>>> her well then I guess we are making a mistake. She said I have shown you 
>>>>> all 20 houses and this one you all loved. I felt like telling her that 
>>>>> this is a clear example of why love at first sight is not lasting *LOL*. 
>>>>> However, I did not. What I did tell her since she wanted to throw up the 
>>>>> fact that she has shown us 20 houses was yes she has shown us 20 houses, 
>>>>> but I cannot figure out why out of 20 houses she has shown us we have 
>>>>> only been excited about and ready to put an offer on 1. I told her out of 
>>>>> all the houses in Knoxville I cannot imagine that the house she is 
>>>>> insisting that we buy is the only one that we will like in Knoxville. The 
>>>>> next time we saw her she was more on the ball than she had been being. In 
>>>>> fact always in the pat she has said about any questions we have I will 
>>>>> find out for you when I get back to the office. However, last night she 
>>>>> made calls and got answers for us before we left. She was a lot more 
>>>>> sociable last night as well. I think she knows that she was very close to 
>>>>> losing out on  some money and even mor concerned about the bad 
>>>>> advertisement it could cause for her. I ended the phone call with her by 
>>>>> telling her that I understand that she is getting tired, but she knows 
>>>>> our criteria and we are going to continue looking. The house last night 
>>>>> was almost 20,000 less than the house that she was pushing on us. We 
>>>>> loved a lot about the house. However, Amanda and I did not feel like this 
>>>>> one was the one. One of the major things that concerned me was the fact 
>>>>> there was no attic and there was no basement. The layout was nice though. 
>>>>> It had a huge deck and French doors that opened up onto it from the 
>>>>> master. It also had French doors that opened up from the dining room onto 
>>>>> the deck. However, there was cracks all throughout the house and our real 
>>>>> estate agent told me today before we decided to place an offer on the 
>>>>> house that she noticed a crack on the foundation in a few different 
>>>>> places. My dad said that could be remedied, but I do not know how much of 
>>>>> a headache that is going to be. So, foundational problems kocked it out 
>>>>> of the considerations. It wassitting on flat land right across the street 
>>>>> from the elementary school so that was really nice. If the offer that has 
>>>>> been placed on it falls through then we may go back and consider it later 
>>>>> once we have some time to think about it. So, that is where we are in the 
>>>>> house buying journey. It seems as though everyone wants a rancher because 
>>>>> we have had several that we have set up to go and look at only to have 
>>>>> the agent call us back and tell us that it has sold or pending sell.      

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