[audacity4blind] Re: new member

  • From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:38:24 +0700

Jean, I think you should send the link on this list. May be, there're some members need it beside Audacity.

Thanks so much.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member


Thank you Jean for the update.
Hope all is well.

-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:25 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member

No, I have been more busy than usual over the last day.  I'll send it
sometime within the next day or two.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:06 PM
Jean,
Did you ever send the dropbox link or however, you msend files for the
program?

-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:04 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member

I should add that, while it appears you have the experience to realize
this, others may not so I'll say that if you are good at speaking
without pausing or stumbling for somewhat long periods and don't mind
working from notes, you may prefer to record in real time and edit
everything afterward.  You could record a discussion of something,
then open the program and demonstrate it, all in real time.  You could
then edit the results afterward.
I prefer doing things as I described.  It saves me the trouble of
working from notes and Sound recorder allows me to edit my speaking in
real time.

I should also add, concerning the Microsoft Sound Recorder, that it
has annoying quirks and problems.  I've only used the program on two
computers and I have no way of knowing what results you will get but
you may find focus problems or perhaps another quirk that annoy you
enough that you decide not to use it.  But since I've only used the
program on two computers, I suspect, though I don't know, that you
will find annoyances working with it.  I put up with them but you may
decide you don't want to and would rather edit everything after
recording everything, not in real time.  You could use a program like
Mp3 Direct Cut for such editing.  It is particularly convenient for
such editing.

It would be nice to to know about another program that allows you to
edit in real time.  If one exists, I don't know of any.

I will be sending a file to Drop Box, probably later today, which will
contain the Microsoft program, and a presentation I did years ago for
Accessible World's Tech Talk on working with the program.

Note carefully that if you are running a 64 bit version of Windows,
the program I am sending should be placed in the programs x86 folder
and run from there.  It is a 32 bit program.  You may get a message
every time you run the program that the registry can't be updated.
Just activate the ok button and use the program.  It works as it
should and the message, while it may indicate a technical problem
between the program and the registry, means nothing in terms of
performance.

Gene
----- Original Message -----> Thanks so much Jean. This help me alot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:52 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member


Some people record the output of the computer  with a microphone and
record what they are doing in the tutorial.  I assume they edit out
pauses if they have a reasonable knowledge of how to create good
recordings.
People don't generally use two computers.
I don't record what the computer is speaking using a microphone.  I
use the what you hear item to record the output from the computer.
I place the output in a second file and I then use a player to play
the part of the recording I want to be heard at the right time in
the recording I'm making.  for example, if I want to have a
screen-reader read a dialog, I record the dialog being read and
before the dialog recording begins, I mark time.  For example, I may
press something on the keyboard three times in a rhythm and then
start the dialog reading at the next point in the rhythem.  for
example, I might press the pc cursor key three times in a rhythem
and then, on the next beat where there should be new sound, I might
issue the read dialog command.
I then use this count down system when I'm recording my speech.  I
stop speaking, stop the recorder, start the player playing, and
then, when the countdown is complete, I start recording.  If you
don't have a what you hear option, you can get the same result in
other ways but I haven't worked with any of those other ways.  Other
list members might be able to discuss them.  there are ways to do
either the same or roughly the same tasks as what you hear allows you to
do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 8:21 PM
Thanks Jean. Just another question. Do you use two computer to
create this?
one for demo, and one for recording. I ask this for improving my
expirience.
Thanks for replying me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:18 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member


I use the old Microsoft Sound Recording program because of its ease
of  real time editing.  The program records using the wave format.
I  joined  the files together using audacity and then used Audacity
to convert  the  final file to Mp3.  I may have done a little
editing using Mp3 Direct  Cut  but I don't recall now if I did.

The old Microsoft program can be used in Windows 7.  Let me know
if you want a copy.

But  the actual quality of the audio itself, that is the sound
quality of the voice is not dependent on the Microsoft program.
the Microsoft program allows for easy real time editing but any
decent recording program can produce a reasonable quality voice
recording if you use a reasonably good microphone and file
parameters that are adequate for reasonable sound.

The microphone I use is a Radio Shack lapel microphone that sells
for about twenty dollars.  I have a microphone frame that I clip
the microphone to.  I clip it to the boom.  the old broken
micropyhone frame is more or less like a stereo headphone frame.
I use the boom to keep the microphone near my mouth.  I don't have
it clipped to my lapel.

I'm not sure how easy it would be to find the necessary parts to
create something like that.  I just happened to have an old frame
that worked for that purpose.  You may want to try a radio shack
microphone that you can purchase from some stores that uses a
headphone like frame with a boom.
the microphone isn't as good but the sound should be good enough.
I'm not talking about a combination headphone microphone.  I'm
talking about just a microphone on a headphone-like frame attached
to a thin boom.
Hi Jean
I wonder if you tell me what tools you use to record this tutorial.
I'd like its quality so much
Thank you.
Cuong Dang

On 11/23/12, Kimsan <kimsansong@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Jean,
Thank you very, very much for this.
I just completed listening to the audacity portion of your
tutorial and I was able to do what I wanted to do.
Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:39 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member

Here is a tutorial I did on audacity and Mp3 Direct Cut.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/Audacity%20And%20Mp3%20Direct%
2 0Cut.zip Audacity is discussed first, followed by a discussion
of
Mp3 Direct Cut.

One subject discussed is how to select and delete material,
which is specifically what you are asking about.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:54 PM
Hello:

I just signed up to this list.

I have heard over the years great stuff about audacity so I
thought I would use it.  Please keep in mind that I have only
been using audacity for 10-minutes now so I am a beginner.
Here is my question.

I imported a file, I have a part of the audio that is a mess
up, so how do I remove that part from the audio when playing it
back?

I'm using audacity 2.0 and jaws 14.  Please provide clear and
concise steps as I am new to this program.

I am googling for tutorials from a blind perspective as we
speak but if someone can get me started that would be awesome.

Thanks.







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