[audacity4blind] Re: new member

  • From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:25:07 -0600

No, I have been more busy than usual over the last day.  I'll send it
sometime within the next day or two.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:06 PM
> Jean,
> Did you ever send the dropbox link or however, you msend files for the
> program?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:04 AM
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member
>
> I should add that, while it appears you have the experience to realize
> this,
> others may not so I'll say that if you are good at speaking without
> pausing
> or stumbling for somewhat long periods and don't mind working from notes,
> you may prefer to record in real time and edit everything afterward.  You
> could record a discussion of something, then open the program and
> demonstrate it, all in real time.  You could then edit the results
> afterward.
> I prefer doing things as I described.  It saves me the trouble of working
> from notes and Sound recorder allows me to edit my speaking in real time.
>
> I should also add, concerning the Microsoft Sound Recorder, that it has
> annoying quirks and problems.  I've only used the program on two computers
> and I have no way of knowing what results you will get but you may find
> focus problems or perhaps another quirk that annoy you enough that you
> decide not to use it.  But since I've only used the program on two
> computers, I suspect, though I don't know, that you will find annoyances
> working with it.  I put up with them but you may decide you don't want to
> and would rather edit everything after recording everything, not in real
> time.  You could use a program like Mp3 Direct Cut for such editing.  It
> is
> particularly convenient for such editing.
>
> It would be nice to to know about another program that allows you to edit
> in
> real time.  If one exists, I don't know of any.
>
> I will be sending a file to Drop Box, probably later today, which will
> contain the Microsoft program, and a presentation I did years ago for
> Accessible World's Tech Talk on working with the program.
>
> Note carefully that if you are running a 64 bit version of Windows, the
> program I am sending should be placed in the programs x86 folder and run
> from there.  It is a 32 bit program.  You may get a message every time you
> run the program that the registry can't be updated.  Just activate the ok
> button and use the program.  It works as it should and the message, while
> it
> may indicate a technical problem between the program and the registry,
> means
> nothing in terms of performance.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----> Thanks so much Jean. This help me alot.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:52 AM
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member
>>
>>
>>> Some people record the output of the computer  with a microphone and
>>> record what they are doing in the tutorial.  I assume they edit out
>>> pauses if they have a reasonable knowledge of how to create good
>>> recordings.
>>> People don't generally use two computers.
>>> I don't record what the computer is speaking using a microphone.  I
>>> use the what you hear item to record the output from the computer.  I
>>> place the output in a second file and I then use a player to play the
>>> part of the recording I want to be heard at the right time in the
>>> recording I'm making.  for example, if I want to have a screen-reader
>>> read a dialog, I record the dialog being read and before the dialog
>>> recording begins, I mark time.  For example, I may press something on
>>> the keyboard three times in a rhythm and then start the dialog
>>> reading at the next point in the rhythem.  for example, I might press
>>> the pc cursor key three times in a rhythem and then, on the next beat
>>> where there should be new sound, I might issue the read dialog
>>> command.
>>> I then use this count down system when I'm recording my speech.  I
>>> stop speaking, stop the recorder, start the player playing, and then,
>>> when the countdown is complete, I start recording.  If you don't have
>>> a what you hear option, you can get the same result in other ways but
>>> I haven't worked with any of those other ways.  Other list members
>>> might be able to discuss them.  there are ways to do either the same
>>> or roughly the same tasks as what you hear allows you to do.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 8:21 PM
>>>> Thanks Jean. Just another question. Do you use two computer to
>>>> create this?
>>>> one for demo, and one for recording. I ask this for improving my
>>>> expirience.
>>>> Thanks for replying me.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:18 AM
>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I use the old Microsoft Sound Recording program because of its ease
>>>>>of  real time editing.  The program records using the wave format.
>>>>>I  joined  the files together using audacity and then used Audacity
>>>>>to convert  the  final file to Mp3.  I may have done a little
>>>>>editing using Mp3 Direct  Cut  but I don't recall now if I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> The old Microsoft program can be used in Windows 7.  Let me know if
>>>>> you want a copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> But  the actual quality of the audio itself, that is the sound
>>>>> quality of the voice is not dependent on the Microsoft program.
>>>>> the Microsoft program allows for easy real time editing but any
>>>>> decent recording program can produce a reasonable quality voice
>>>>> recording if you use a reasonably good microphone and file
>>>>> parameters that are adequate for reasonable sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> The microphone I use is a Radio Shack lapel microphone that sells
>>>>> for about twenty dollars.  I have a microphone frame that I clip
>>>>> the microphone to.  I clip it to the boom.  the old broken
>>>>> micropyhone frame is more or less like a stereo headphone frame.  I
>>>>> use the boom to keep the microphone near my mouth.  I don't have it
>>>>> clipped to my lapel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how easy it would be to find the necessary parts to
>>>>> create something like that.  I just happened to have an old frame
>>>>> that worked for that purpose.  You may want to try a radio shack
>>>>> microphone that you can purchase from some stores that uses a
>>>>> headphone like frame with a boom.
>>>>> the microphone isn't as good but the sound should be good enough.
>>>>> I'm not talking about a combination headphone microphone.  I'm
>>>>> talking about just a microphone on a headphone-like frame attached
>>>>> to a thin boom.
>>>>>> Hi Jean
>>>>>> I wonder if you tell me what tools you use to record this tutorial.
>>>>>> I'd like its quality so much
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Cuong Dang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/23/12, Kimsan <kimsansong@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jean,
>>>>>>> Thank you very, very much for this.
>>>>>>> I just completed listening to the audacity portion of your
>>>>>>> tutorial and I was able to do what I wanted to do.
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a tutorial I did on audacity and Mp3 Direct Cut.
>>>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/Audacity%20And%20Mp3%20Direct%2
>>>>>>> 0Cut.zip Audacity is discussed first, followed by a discussion of
>>>>>>> Mp3 Direct Cut.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One subject discussed is how to select and delete material, which
>>>>>>> is specifically what you are asking about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:54 PM
>>>>>>>> Hello:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just signed up to this list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have heard over the years great stuff about audacity so I
>>>>>>>> thought I would use it.  Please keep in mind that I have only
>>>>>>>> been using audacity for 10-minutes now so I am a beginner.  Here
>>>>>>>> is my question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I imported a file, I have a part of the audio that is a mess up,
>>>>>>>> so how do I remove that part from the audio when playing it back?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using audacity 2.0 and jaws 14.  Please provide clear and
>>>>>>>> concise steps as I am new to this program.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am googling for tutorials from a blind perspective as we speak
>>>>>>>> but if someone can get me started that would be awesome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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