Jean, Did you ever send the dropbox link or however, you msend files for the program? -----Original Message----- From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:04 AM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member I should add that, while it appears you have the experience to realize this, others may not so I'll say that if you are good at speaking without pausing or stumbling for somewhat long periods and don't mind working from notes, you may prefer to record in real time and edit everything afterward. You could record a discussion of something, then open the program and demonstrate it, all in real time. You could then edit the results afterward. I prefer doing things as I described. It saves me the trouble of working from notes and Sound recorder allows me to edit my speaking in real time. I should also add, concerning the Microsoft Sound Recorder, that it has annoying quirks and problems. I've only used the program on two computers and I have no way of knowing what results you will get but you may find focus problems or perhaps another quirk that annoy you enough that you decide not to use it. But since I've only used the program on two computers, I suspect, though I don't know, that you will find annoyances working with it. I put up with them but you may decide you don't want to and would rather edit everything after recording everything, not in real time. You could use a program like Mp3 Direct Cut for such editing. It is particularly convenient for such editing. It would be nice to to know about another program that allows you to edit in real time. If one exists, I don't know of any. I will be sending a file to Drop Box, probably later today, which will contain the Microsoft program, and a presentation I did years ago for Accessible World's Tech Talk on working with the program. Note carefully that if you are running a 64 bit version of Windows, the program I am sending should be placed in the programs x86 folder and run from there. It is a 32 bit program. You may get a message every time you run the program that the registry can't be updated. Just activate the ok button and use the program. It works as it should and the message, while it may indicate a technical problem between the program and the registry, means nothing in terms of performance. Gene ----- Original Message -----> Thanks so much Jean. This help me alot. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:52 AM > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member > > >> Some people record the output of the computer with a microphone and >> record what they are doing in the tutorial. I assume they edit out >> pauses if they have a reasonable knowledge of how to create good >> recordings. >> People don't generally use two computers. >> I don't record what the computer is speaking using a microphone. I >> use the what you hear item to record the output from the computer. I >> place the output in a second file and I then use a player to play the >> part of the recording I want to be heard at the right time in the >> recording I'm making. for example, if I want to have a screen-reader >> read a dialog, I record the dialog being read and before the dialog >> recording begins, I mark time. For example, I may press something on >> the keyboard three times in a rhythm and then start the dialog >> reading at the next point in the rhythem. for example, I might press >> the pc cursor key three times in a rhythem and then, on the next beat >> where there should be new sound, I might issue the read dialog >> command. >> I then use this count down system when I'm recording my speech. I >> stop speaking, stop the recorder, start the player playing, and then, >> when the countdown is complete, I start recording. If you don't have >> a what you hear option, you can get the same result in other ways but >> I haven't worked with any of those other ways. Other list members >> might be able to discuss them. there are ways to do either the same >> or roughly the same tasks as what you hear allows you to do. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 8:21 PM >>> Thanks Jean. Just another question. Do you use two computer to >>> create this? >>> one for demo, and one for recording. I ask this for improving my >>> expirience. >>> Thanks for replying me. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:18 AM >>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member >>> >>> >>>>I use the old Microsoft Sound Recording program because of its ease >>>>of real time editing. The program records using the wave format. >>>>I joined the files together using audacity and then used Audacity >>>>to convert the final file to Mp3. I may have done a little >>>>editing using Mp3 Direct Cut but I don't recall now if I did. >>>> >>>> The old Microsoft program can be used in Windows 7. Let me know if >>>> you want a copy. >>>> >>>> But the actual quality of the audio itself, that is the sound >>>> quality of the voice is not dependent on the Microsoft program. >>>> the Microsoft program allows for easy real time editing but any >>>> decent recording program can produce a reasonable quality voice >>>> recording if you use a reasonably good microphone and file >>>> parameters that are adequate for reasonable sound. >>>> >>>> The microphone I use is a Radio Shack lapel microphone that sells >>>> for about twenty dollars. I have a microphone frame that I clip >>>> the microphone to. I clip it to the boom. the old broken >>>> micropyhone frame is more or less like a stereo headphone frame. I >>>> use the boom to keep the microphone near my mouth. I don't have it >>>> clipped to my lapel. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how easy it would be to find the necessary parts to >>>> create something like that. I just happened to have an old frame >>>> that worked for that purpose. You may want to try a radio shack >>>> microphone that you can purchase from some stores that uses a >>>> headphone like frame with a boom. >>>> the microphone isn't as good but the sound should be good enough. >>>> I'm not talking about a combination headphone microphone. I'm >>>> talking about just a microphone on a headphone-like frame attached >>>> to a thin boom. >>>>> Hi Jean >>>>> I wonder if you tell me what tools you use to record this tutorial. >>>>> I'd like its quality so much >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Cuong Dang >>>>> >>>>> On 11/23/12, Kimsan <kimsansong@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> Jean, >>>>>> Thank you very, very much for this. >>>>>> I just completed listening to the audacity portion of your >>>>>> tutorial and I was able to do what I wanted to do. >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:39 PM >>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: new member >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a tutorial I did on audacity and Mp3 Direct Cut. >>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25812011/Audacity%20And%20Mp3%20Direct%2 >>>>>> 0Cut.zip Audacity is discussed first, followed by a discussion of >>>>>> Mp3 Direct Cut. >>>>>> >>>>>> One subject discussed is how to select and delete material, which >>>>>> is specifically what you are asking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@xxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:54 PM >>>>>>> Hello: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just signed up to this list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have heard over the years great stuff about audacity so I >>>>>>> thought I would use it. Please keep in mind that I have only >>>>>>> been using audacity for 10-minutes now so I am a beginner. Here >>>>>>> is my question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I imported a file, I have a part of the audio that is a mess up, >>>>>>> so how do I remove that part from the audio when playing it back? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm using audacity 2.0 and jaws 14. Please provide clear and >>>>>>> concise steps as I am new to this program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am googling for tutorials from a blind perspective as we speak >>>>>>> but if someone can get me started that would be awesome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The audacity4blind web site is at >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, Audacity >>>>>> keyboard commands, and more... >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >>>>>> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with subject line >>>>>> unsubscribe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The audacity4blind web site is at >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, Audacity >>>>>> keyboard commands, and more... >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >>>>>> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with subject line >>>>>> unsubscribe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dang Manh Cuong >>>>> HCMC University of Pedagogy: >>>>> The Psychology and education >>>>> Mobile: +84 902-572-300 >>>>> E-mail: dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> Yahoo ID: manhcuong0312 >>>>> Skype name: dangmanhcuong >>>>> facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong >>>>> Blog: http://vi.netlog.com/Cuong_littlecat >>>>> Website: http://ngoisaodanduong.com http://www.saomaicenter.org >>>>> Projec-Website: http://dangmanhcuong.googlecode.com >>>>> >>>>> The audacity4blind web site is at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, Audacity >>>>> keyboard commands, and more... >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >>>>> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with subject line >>>>> unsubscribe >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The audacity4blind web site is at >>>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind >>>> >>>> Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, Audacity >>>> keyboard commands, and more... >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >>>> audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with subject line >>>> unsubscribe >>>> >>> ________________ Dang Manh Cuong HCMC University of Pedagogy: The >>> Educational Psychology Mobile: +84 902-572-300 E-mail: >>> dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx Yahoo! 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