[access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
- From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:39:41 -0000
Good point. I'm sold.
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lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:00 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
But that's no different to losing a wallet full of cash.
BTW, I've decided to get one too, if for no other reason than to try and
crack it with an Android app.
Barry Hill writes:
> Thanks, both.
>
> I'm pretty well clued up about these contactless cards now. I would be
> tempted to get one as they are so very convenient for visually impaired >
people in particular, but I'm concerned about how easy it would be for >
someone else to spend up to £100 of my money if I lost my wallet. Even if
> the bank say they cover for any fraud, I have to fork out the first £50
like > some insurance excess, and I can't afford to give away £50!
>
> I've not lost my wallet in over 30 years, but there's always the chance
no > matter how careful I am. Still, if I do get one, I'm going to put tin
foil > in a zip compartment that runs the length of my wallet.
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:19 PM >
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
> > > And for balance:
>
>
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-2328578/How-safe-new-conta
> ctless-bank-cards.html
>
>
http://www.which.co.uk/money/credit-cards-and-loans/guides/contactless-cards
> /
>
>
http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/analysis/2327179/contactless-payments-are-we-
> sacrificing-security-for-convenience
>
>
> Interestingly, you are responsible for the first £50 of losses due to
fraud > (is that standard for any kind of card), and contactless terminals
ask for a > PIN after every six or so transactions.
>
>
> Derek Hornby writes: > Hi Barry > You may find this link of > interest:
> >
> > http://ask-leo.com/can_my_credit_card_information_be_read_remotely.htm
> > l
> >
> > it's about reading credit cards remotely > > Derek > > > > >
> -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Barry Hill > Sent:
> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:41 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Subject:
> [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card > > Ah, thanks for that. Could >
someone else use their smart phone to read > your > card if they got close
> enough, which isn't difficult with blind > people?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >
> Behalf Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015
4:51 > PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re:
Accessible > bank card > > > NFC = Near Field Communications = The
technology used to > read > contactless > smart cards, payment cards etc.
I believe that the > card number, expiry > date > etc can be easily read
by a smart phone. Its > then a simple step to > read > those out loud
using the 'phones TTS. It > looks like contactless > versions of >
credit/debit cards are available > from a lot of banks, so this may be >
an > alternative to adding Braille > to credit cards.
> >
> >
> > Barry Hill writes: > What's
> > an NFC app, please?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Barry
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf > Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03,
2015 > 10:13 > AM > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject:
[access-uk] Re:
> Accessible > bank card > > > > Can the card details be read from a >
contactless payment card > by a > NFC app on > a smart phone? Is there an
> app waiting to be written > here?
> > >
> > >
> > > goshawk on horseback writes:
> > > > just my personal point of view, but I think it would have been a
> > far > > better idea to work out ways around what is almost certainly
the > > hardest > and > most frustrating thing with bank or credit
cards, that of > > accessing > the > details needed to actually use the
card, such as card > number, > start > and > expirey dates, and back
security number, rather > than prannying > around > with > all these
fancy ideas that don't really > do a lot to improve > usability.
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Barry Hill
> > > > To: angie.matthews@xxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:01 AM
> > > > Subject: [access-uk] Accessible bank card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RBS and NatWest launch accessible cards for partially sighted
> > and
> > blind
> > > customers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 19 February 2015
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the UK alone there are over 2 million people living with
> > sight
> > loss
> > > making lots of everyday tasks, including banking, difficult and >
> frustrating.
> > > Following feedback from a partially sighted customer, RBS and > >
NatWest > have > introduced a new accessible debit card.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > rnib card
> > > >
> > > > The new debit and savings cards feature braille, a notch to
> > help
> > > identify the card and a large print phone number.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RBS and NatWest are now launching new accessible debit and
> > savings
> > > cards which have been specifically designed for blind and partially
> > sighted > customers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To address some of the common problems that blind and
> > partially
> > sighted
> > > customers face, the cards will:
> > > >
> > > > .feature braille markings to identify which card is savings
> > and
> > which
> > > card is debit
> > > >
> > > > .have a notch cut out on the right hand side of the card to
> > help
> > > customers insert their card into ATMs and PIN pads correctly > >
> > > > .show telephone numbers where they will be most clear
> > > >
> > > > .have large font on the back of the card to make the phone
> > numbers
> > > easier to read
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RBS and NatWest's new cards can initially help their 15,000
> > customers
> > > registered as blind or partially sighted. All other features of the
> > card > > remain the same - this card can be used in ATMs, at point of
sale > > and for > > Contactless transactions home or abroad. The cards
can be > ordered in > all > RBS > and NatWest branches, online or
through > telephone banking and > will be > issued > within 48 hours.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the first banking product designed especially for
> > blind and
> > > partially sighted people. RBS has worked closely with the Royal >
> National > > Institute of the Blind in the development of this card and
in > > recognition > of > this work the new debit and savings cards will
be the > first > banking > products > to be awarded the new national
quality > assurance mark > 'RNIB > approved'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ross McEwan, CEO of RBS, said: "We want to be recognised as a
> > bank
> > that
> > > listens to its customers and responds to their issues. It's really
> > important > to me that we make banking as simple and easy as possible
> > for > all of our > customers and our accessible cards are another
step > > towards us > earning back > the trust of the public."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve Tyler, Head of Solutions, Strategy and Planning at RNIB
> > said,
> > "We
> > > are delighted to have worked with RBS on making savings and debit
> > cards > more > accessible. The very basic requirement of identifying
the > > right > card and > quickly determining which way the card slots
in to a > > machine or > payment > system has been solved by this
development.
> Simple as it > is, > creating a card > with tactile indicators that >
identify the card type > as > well as the way in > which it should be >
used, is an engineering > challenge, > particularly to ensure > that it
> doesn't disrupt machinery. We look > forward to working with RBS in >
to > the future and enhancing even > more of > the daily payment
challenges > that > blind and partially sighted > customers >
experience."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer
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> > > >
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