Yes, I think sometimes, some people don't like change. For example why is there chip and signature? Surely if one is able to use a mobile they should be able to use chip and PIN The only problem with chip and PIN is, in my view, the key pad design can vary. Derek -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:19 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card And for balance: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-2328578/How-safe-new -contactless-bank-cards.html http://www.which.co.uk/money/credit-cards-and-loans/guides/contactless -cards/ http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/analysis/2327179/contactless-payments-a re-we-sacrificing-security-for-convenience Interestingly, you are responsible for the first £50 of losses due to fraud (is that standard for any kind of card), and contactless terminals ask for a PIN after every six or so transactions. Derek Hornby writes: > Hi Barry > You may find this link of interest: > > http://ask-leo.com/can_my_credit_card_information_be_read_remotely.htm > l > > it's about reading credit cards remotely > > Derek > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Barry Hill > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:41 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card > > Ah, thanks for that. Could someone else use their smart phone to read > your > card if they got close enough, which isn't difficult with blind > people? > > Cheers > > Barry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:51 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card > > > NFC = Near Field Communications = The technology used to read > contactless > smart cards, payment cards etc. I believe that the card number, expiry > date > etc can be easily read by a smart phone. Its then a simple step to > read > those out loud using the 'phones TTS. It looks like contactless > versions of > credit/debit cards are available from a lot of banks, so this may be > an > alternative to adding Braille to credit cards. > > > Barry Hill writes: > What's > an NFC app, please? > > > > Cheers > > > > Barry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > Of > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 10:13 > AM > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible > bank card > > > > Can the card details be read from a contactless payment card > by a > NFC app on > a smart phone? Is there an app waiting to be written > here? > > > > > > goshawk on horseback writes: > > > just my personal point of view, but I think it would have been a > far > > better idea to work out ways around what is almost certainly the > hardest > and > most frustrating thing with bank or credit cards, that of > accessing > the > details needed to actually use the card, such as card number, > start > and > expirey dates, and back security number, rather than prannying > around > with > all these fancy ideas that don't really do a lot to improve > usability. > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Barry Hill > > > To: angie.matthews@xxxxxxx > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:01 AM > > > Subject: [access-uk] Accessible bank card > > > > > > > > > RBS and NatWest launch accessible cards for partially sighted > and > blind > > customers > > > > > > > > > > > > 19 February 2015 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the UK alone there are over 2 million people living with > sight > loss > > making lots of everyday tasks, including banking, difficult and > frustrating. > > Following feedback from a partially sighted customer, RBS and > NatWest > have > introduced a new accessible debit card. > > > > > > > > > > > > rnib card > > > > > > The new debit and savings cards feature braille, a notch to > help > > identify the card and a large print phone number. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RBS and NatWest are now launching new accessible debit and > savings > > cards which have been specifically designed for blind and partially > sighted > customers. > > > > > > > > > > > > To address some of the common problems that blind and > partially > sighted > > customers face, the cards will: > > > > > > .feature braille markings to identify which card is savings > and > which > > card is debit > > > > > > .have a notch cut out on the right hand side of the card to > help > > customers insert their card into ATMs and PIN pads correctly > > > > > .show telephone numbers where they will be most clear > > > > > > .have large font on the back of the card to make the phone > numbers > > easier to read > > > > > > > > > > > > RBS and NatWest's new cards can initially help their 15,000 > customers > > registered as blind or partially sighted. All other features of the > card > > remain the same - this card can be used in ATMs, at point of sale > and for > > Contactless transactions home or abroad. The cards can be ordered in > all > RBS > and NatWest branches, online or through telephone banking and > will be > issued > within 48 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the first banking product designed especially for > blind and > > partially sighted people. RBS has worked closely with the Royal > National > > Institute of the Blind in the development of this card and in > recognition > of > this work the new debit and savings cards will be the first > banking > products > to be awarded the new national quality assurance mark > 'RNIB > approved'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ross McEwan, CEO of RBS, said: "We want to be recognised as a > bank > that > > listens to its customers and responds to their issues. It's really > important > to me that we make banking as simple and easy as possible > for > all of our > customers and our accessible cards are another step > towards us > earning back > the trust of the public." > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Tyler, Head of Solutions, Strategy and Planning at RNIB > said, > "We > > are delighted to have worked with RBS on making savings and debit > cards > more > accessible. The very basic requirement of identifying the > right > card and > quickly determining which way the card slots in to a > machine or > payment > system has been solved by this development. Simple as it > is, > creating a card > with tactile indicators that identify the card type > as > well as the way in > which it should be used, is an engineering > challenge, > particularly to ensure > that it doesn't disrupt machinery. 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