[access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card

  • From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 20:42:36 -0000

Yes,  I think  sometimes,  some people don't like change.

For example why  is there chip and signature?

Surely  if one is able to use  a mobile  they should be able  to use
chip  and  PIN

The only problem with  chip and PIN  is,  in my view,
the key  pad  design can vary.

Derek 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:19 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card


And for balance:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/saving/article-2328578/How-safe-new
-contactless-bank-cards.html

http://www.which.co.uk/money/credit-cards-and-loans/guides/contactless
-cards/

http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/analysis/2327179/contactless-payments-a
re-we-sacrificing-security-for-convenience


Interestingly, you are responsible for the first £50 of losses due to
fraud (is that standard for any kind of card), and contactless
terminals ask for a PIN after every six or so transactions.


Derek Hornby writes: > Hi Barry > You may find this link of
interest:
 > 
 >
http://ask-leo.com/can_my_credit_card_information_be_read_remotely.htm
 > l
 > 
 > it's about reading  credit cards  remotely
 > 
 > Derek 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 > Behalf Of Barry Hill
 > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 5:41 PM
 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
 > 
 > Ah, thanks for that.  Could someone else use their smart phone to
read
 > your
 > card if they got close enough, which isn't difficult with blind
 > people?
 > 
 > Cheers
 > 
 > Barry
 > 
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
 > Behalf Of
 > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:51 PM
 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible bank card
 > 
 > 
 > NFC = Near Field Communications = The technology used to read
 > contactless
 > smart cards, payment cards etc. I believe that the card number,
expiry
 > date
 > etc can be easily read by a smart phone. Its then a simple step to
 > read
 > those out loud using the 'phones TTS. It looks like contactless
 > versions of
 > credit/debit cards are available from a lot of banks, so this may
be
 > an
 > alternative to adding Braille to credit cards. 
 > 
 > 
 > Barry Hill writes: > What's
 > an NFC app, please?
 >  >
 >  > Cheers
 >  >
 >  > Barry
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > -----Original Message-----
 >  > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
 > Behalf
 > Of  > lsmithso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015
10:13
 > AM  >
 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible
 > bank card
 > >  >  > Can the card details be read from a contactless payment
card
 > by a
 > NFC app on  > a smart phone? Is there an app waiting to be written
 > here?
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > goshawk on horseback writes:
 >  >  > just my personal point of view, but I think it would have
been a
 > far
 > > better idea to work out ways around what is almost certainly the
 > hardest
 > and  > most frustrating thing with bank or credit cards, that of
 > accessing
 > the  > details needed to actually use the card, such as card
number,
 > start
 > and  > expirey dates, and back security number, rather than
prannying
 > around
 > with  > all these fancy ideas that don't really do a lot to improve
 > usability. 
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Simon
 >  >  >
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
 >  >  >   From: Barry Hill 
 >  >  >   To: angie.matthews@xxxxxxx 
 >  >  >   Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:01 AM
 >  >  >   Subject: [access-uk] Accessible bank card
 >  >  >
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   RBS and NatWest launch accessible cards for partially
sighted
 > and
 > blind
 >  > customers
 >  >  > 
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 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   19 February 2015 
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 >  >  >   In the UK alone there are over 2 million people living with
 > sight
 > loss
 >  > making lots of everyday tasks, including banking, difficult and
 > frustrating.
 >  > Following feedback from a partially sighted customer, RBS and
 > NatWest
 > have  > introduced a new accessible debit card.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >    
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >     rnib card      
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   The new debit and savings cards feature braille, a notch to
 > help
 >  > identify the card and a large print phone number.
 >  >  >
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 >  >  >   RBS and NatWest are now launching new accessible debit and
 > savings
 >  > cards which have been specifically designed for blind and
partially
 > sighted  > customers.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >    
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   To address some of the common problems that blind and
 > partially
 > sighted
 >  > customers face, the cards will:
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   .feature braille markings to identify which card is savings
 > and
 > which
 >  > card is debit
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   .have a notch cut out on the right hand side of the card to
 > help
 >  > customers insert their card into ATMs and PIN pads correctly  >
> 
 >  >  >   .show telephone numbers where they will be most clear
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   .have large font on the back of the card to make the phone
 > numbers
 >  > easier to read
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 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   RBS and NatWest's new cards can initially help their 15,000
 > customers
 >  > registered as blind or partially sighted. All other features of
the
 > card
 > > remain the same - this card can be used in ATMs, at point of sale
 > and for
 > > Contactless transactions home or abroad. The cards can be ordered
in
 > all
 > RBS  > and NatWest branches, online or through telephone banking
and
 > will be
 > issued  > within 48 hours.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >    
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   This is the first banking product designed especially for
 > blind and
 >  > partially sighted people. RBS has worked closely with the Royal
 > National
 > > Institute of the Blind in the development of this card and in
 > recognition
 > of  > this work the new debit and savings cards will be the first
 > banking
 > products  > to be awarded the new national quality assurance mark
 > 'RNIB
 > approved'.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >    
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Ross McEwan, CEO of RBS, said: "We want to be recognised as
a
 > bank
 > that
 >  > listens to its customers and responds to their issues. It's
really
 > important  > to me that we make banking as simple and easy as
possible
 > for
 > all of our  > customers and our accessible cards are another step
 > towards us
 > earning back  > the trust of the public."
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >    
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Steve Tyler, Head of Solutions, Strategy and Planning at
RNIB
 > said,
 > "We
 >  > are delighted to have worked with RBS on making savings and
debit
 > cards
 > more  > accessible.  The very basic requirement of identifying the
 > right
 > card and  > quickly determining which way the card slots in to a
 > machine or
 > payment  > system has been solved by this development. Simple as it
 > is,
 > creating a card  > with tactile indicators that identify the card
type
 > as
 > well as the way in  > which it should be used, is an engineering
 > challenge,
 > particularly to ensure  > that it doesn't disrupt machinery.  We
look
 > forward to working with RBS in  > to the future and enhancing even
 > more of
 > the daily payment challenges that  > blind and partially sighted
 > customers
 > experience."
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 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   This information is for media use only and is not a
financial
 > promotion
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