--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@...> wrote: > responding to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/message/6195 > SWM: > I've been trying to follow along on this but I'm not clear on what > you're saying above, Neil. I'll try to expand on that a little. The held view among philosophers seems to assume two processes at work with respect to the input. Process A: This is usually taken to be a passive mechanical sensory process that inputs signals. Process B: This is taken to be where the signals are somehow interpreted, meaning is somehow found, and conscious experience is somehow generated. AI folk take process B as being computational, while the sense-data people take it to be some kind of unconscious thought. Note that those two need not be mutually exclusive. It seems that the efforts to investigate consciousness are focussed on understanding process B. Process A is usually taken for granted and not much studied. My use of "dualism" was in part a reference to those dual processes. As far as I can tell, process B is purely imaginary, which would make it immaterial. It seems to me that there is only one process, namely perception. It is not a passive pickup of raw signals. Rather, it is an active seeking of meaningful information. Regards, Neil ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/