[rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker

  • From: Antonio Garcia Russell <antoniorussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 14:00:31 +0200

I supplied evidence to support my claim that such ideas where still current amongst politicians, and that Tony Blair put recently floated them. Stopping people having children based on ethnicity or any other discriminatory factor is completely out of order in my book, be it exposed by the Nazis or Tony Blair.

There is no God.

Antonio


On 9 Sep 2006, at 13:26, redleica wrote:

My point is that you stated something very specific and very (negative in my view) about an individual. If there is no evidence to support that claim only he said something meaning something else in your opinion, its beyond my cognition.
Stated philosophicaly you mean :
It is sufficient to say, but not necessarily the case that...
I think that this is the most that you could have inferred from your ambigous statement.
But prensenting the point as a fact is a little ambitious.
As you stated and I am in full agreement with you, we have to learn valuable lessons form our shared past.
Thanks for your message,
God bless You.
Marvin.


-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Garcia Russell <antoniorussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:29:28
To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker

Marvin,

He is a politician, he does not speak in specifics - particularly
when "floating ideas". My point was that even today the idea of
intervening in the childbearing abilities of people is still on the
political agenda. If the Nazis taught us anything it must surely be
that one has to remain constantly vigilant against such things. It
could happen again.

Antonio


On 9 Sep 2006, at 03:05, redleica wrote:

That is new to me, I would be greatful if you could provide
evidence of Tony Blairs eugenics proposal, so I could see firsthand.
This is if in your statement you mean more or less yes to mean yes,
and not no.
The second point that I would like to make is that it is the
underlying philosophical commitment to methological and
metaphysical naturalisim, that lead to these extreme views.
Which as I have pointed  out several times why I have been vary
careful not to focus on individuals but on the  general political
consensus within a country and in the continent of Europe.
Breifly stated for all the comment on poitics and history, the
causes were philloshopical. And the reasons can be stated as they
did not think what they were doing was wrong, and the saw no
ultimate negative consequence in following there chiosen
perceptions in life.
Any comments on the Rollei 3.5F, is it the best Rollei.
Thanks for your message,
God bless You.
Marvin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Garcia Russell <antoniorussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:03:59
To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker

More or less, yes.


On 9 Sep 2006, at 08:43, Marvin Wallace wrote:

That one went past me; Tony Blair floated the idea of forced
sterilizations
to control crime?

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