[rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker
- From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:48:23 -0700
Artists and authoritarianism, now there's a subject rarely broached
these days.
Slobodan Dimitrov
Studio G-8,
Angels Gate Cultural Center
http://sdimitrovphoto.com
On Sep 5, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
At 04:39 PM 9/5/2006, Jeffery Smith wrote:
Parker's exact wording is "The firm Franke & Heidecke were ardent
and proud
supporters of Hitler's National Socialist Party and I would
quickly hasten
to add that many other German industrialists also supported
Hitler, and with
large sums of money."
One fellow from the LUG asked me how I could possible listen to music
conducted by Herbert Von Karajan as he was not opposed to Hitler.
I suppose
that it is the same reason why I drive Japanese cars. I'm not
buying them
for Japan's sake. I'm buying them for my sake.
Herbert von Karajan was an ardent and open supporter of the Nazi
regime to the point where Speer and his cronies didn't trust him
when using the two Berlin symphonies to signal the need to evacuate
Berlin -- they had to get Bruno Walter to do this, but von Karajan
was left in the dark for fear that he would denounce the mass
evacuation to the authorities. (They already had squads of folks
going around stringing those they felt were ready to flee from the
nearest lamp-post.) Walter was a superb conductor and
interpreter, but von Karajan was angelic, despite his demonic
attraction to the Third Reich.
Parker's exuberant but false statement set out above is just
another example of why you need to keep that salt-shaker at hand
when using him as a source. Anecdotal he is, but reliable he is
not -- I once started listing known errors in his HISTORY, and this
was long before Prochnow came on the scene. I gave up when I
reached 70 obvious errors or so and wasn't even half-way through
the book. Parker is a necessary read but it is most dangerous to
regard what he sets out as vital unless it is verified from other
sources.
Marc
msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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Parker's exact wording is "The firm Franke & Heidecke were ardent and proud
supporters of Hitler's National Socialist Party and I would quickly hasten
to add that many other German industrialists also supported Hitler, and with
large sums of money."
One fellow from the LUG asked me how I could possible listen to music
conducted by Herbert Von Karajan as he was not opposed to Hitler. I suppose
that it is the same reason why I drive Japanese cars. I'm not buying them
for Japan's sake. I'm buying them for my sake.
Herbert von Karajan was an ardent and open supporter of the Nazi regime to the point where Speer and his cronies didn't trust him when using the two Berlin symphonies to signal the need to evacuate Berlin -- they had to get Bruno Walter to do this, but von Karajan was left in the dark for fear that he would denounce the mass evacuation to the authorities. (They already had squads of folks going around stringing those they felt were ready to flee from the nearest lamp-post.) Walter was a superb conductor and interpreter, but von Karajan was angelic, despite his demonic attraction to the Third Reich.
Parker's exuberant but false statement set out above is just another example of why you need to keep that salt-shaker at hand when using him as a source. Anecdotal he is, but reliable he is not -- I once started listing known errors in his HISTORY, and this was long before Prochnow came on the scene. I gave up when I reached 70 obvious errors or so and wasn't even half-way through the book. Parker is a necessary read but it is most dangerous to regard what he sets out as vital unless it is verified from other sources.
Marc
msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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