[rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker

  • From: Douglas Nygren <dnygr@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:22:10 -0400

I understand that Furtwängler defended the Jews in his orchestra. Leica did the same. If Rollei fell for all the Übermesnch stuff, shame on them. There is some justice, then, that an inferior design, Hasselblad's, dislodged them after the war. Yes, the SLR took its toll, but when the dust cleared from that Hasselblad was still on its feet. It had interchangeable lenses, but interchangeable lenses that could lead to the camera jamming. I have always preferred the Rollei TLR because it has been so dependable and simple to use. The H is hell in comparion. That's an opinion and I understand others may differ. They may be right. I simply prefer the Rollei. But it is sad news to learn of its management's tainted past.

Best--Doug


On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

Rollei, like many other corporations in the 30's, were supportive of the
Nazi party prior to the war. When the war was over, they resented the
British occupation at first, but warmed up to them after interacting with
the British for a while. I think that Rollei was embarassed over having
utilized a Jewish photographer for Hitler's photo shoot as it would raise
eyebrows.


Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



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[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Wallace
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Jeffrey,
Embarrassing, from whose perspective, the Nazis or Mr. Kahn's? Also who was
supportive of the Nazi party? Please clarify.


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No, it wasn't a matter of F&H turning him in. Soon after the incident he
disappeared with other Jews to a concentration camp. I think the embarrasing
part was probably inadvertently involving a Jewish photographer in the
picture shoot after being supportive of the Nazi party.


I also wonder if the Theodore/Rolleiflex T incident really resulted in the
man being fired or if his sudden departure was unrelated.


Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



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Prochnow tells that story maybe a bit different, he mentions Ian Parker's book "Rollei TLR-The history". F&H was working on the 9x9 third protoype, they did only fourteen of these prototypes from hand-made parts. The first prototype went to the photographer Salomon Kahn who used it to photograph Adolf Hitler. Kahn exhibited these photographs taken with the 9x9 prototype successfully, however the photographs started to disappear when it became known that Kahn was a jew, he soon died in a concentration camp, but it was a Gestapo action, it was not F&H action. F&H began to develop larger format cameras on 1930 before the nazi era with the 7x9 prototype.-

All the best
Carlos
 --- Jeffery Smith <jls@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

Rollei TLR: The History : The Complete Book on the
Origins of Twin-Lens
Photography
by Ian Parker

The black eye:  When Rollei was working on the
prototypes for a 9x9 studio
camera, a rather pro-Nazi Rolleiflex had a
professional photographer take
Hitler's portrait with one of them for use in
creating some postage stamps
wit the Fuhrer's likeness. When it was discovered
that the photographer was
Jewish, everyone panicked, the photographer was
later carted off, and the
studio camera project was scuttled.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



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[mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas Nygren
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by Ian Parker


Thank you for the overview. What is the name of the book and the author's full name?

What was the black eye?
Doug



On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

It's a history of how Rollei got started up at the
turn of the 20th
century
by Franke & Heidecke, their initial product line
(stereo cameras) and
then
the subsequent history of their TLRs (through both
wars). It's a fairly
quick read, but gives you some sort of insight
into how large the
company
grew, when it reached its pinnacle, and how the
SLR ultimately brought
it
down. A nice overview of the company's history
with only one
unfortunately
"black eye" that occurred around WWII.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



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Jeffrey: I don't know this book. Tell me more
about it, please.

Thanks,

Doug


On Sep 4, 2006, at 11:03 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

I just finished reading Ian Parker's book (for
the second time...I
was a Rollei neophyte the first time I read it).
I noticed this
morning that there
are two copies of it for sale on e**y. If you
live and breathe Rollei,
it's
a good read.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/


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