[rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker

  • From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:29:52 +0000 (GMT)

Paul Franke and Reinhold Heidecke never were
investigated after the war for supposed "nazi"
activities,on the other hand they were respected by
American and British and they obtained a quick
agreement to beginn the factory production.
In Prochnow Rollei Report I, there is a photograph
-page 1-29- where the complete Franke family and
complete Heidecke family appear with Mr Harris and Mr
L.Wyborn from the British government in the Rollei
factory, British and Franke&Heidecke families look
like old firends in the photograph. The photograph was
taken on August 1945.

Krupp was a different case, he was convicted in
Nürnberg.

Jefferey, be careful with Parker, he says some wrong
things like Heidecke invented the TLR or that Heidecke
had the idea about the TLR during the WWI.
The TLR existed at least from 1870 in England and
Heidecke had the idea about the compact TLR because
the stereo camera users liked to take normal
photographs first capping one lens, then the other and
advacing th film after to do both separate exposures.
This use caused the reflex compact TLR design in 1928
on the basis of an also compact stereo camera, not the
causes Parker imagined.-

All the best
Carlos 

 --- Jeffery Smith <jls@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> Parker's exact wording is "The firm Franke &
> Heidecke were ardent and proud
> supporters of Hitler's National Socialist Party and
> I would quickly hasten
> to add that many other German industrialists also
> supported Hitler, and with
> large sums of money."
> 
> One fellow from the LUG asked me how I could
> possible listen to music
> conducted by Herbert Von Karajan as he was not
> opposed to Hitler. I suppose
> that it is the same reason why I drive Japanese
> cars. I'm not buying them
> for Japan's sake. I'm buying them for my sake.
> 
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Douglas Nygren
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:14 PM
> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History
> by Ian Parker
> 
> 
> One more question: who you mention "after being
> supportive of the Nazi 
> party." Who was? When?
> 
> There were lots of Nazis, but not everyone was.
> There are lots of 
> Americans who support the war in Iraq, but not
> everyone does. One has 
> be to exact here. Leica apparently wasn't a big
> follower, though I 
> haven't studied this thoroughly. It would seem
> Bechstein lost their 
> factory as a result of the Nazis. They never were
> the same after the 
> war.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
> > No, it wasn't a matter of F&H turning him in. Soon
> after the incident
> > he
> > disappeared with other Jews to a concentration
> camp. I think the 
> > embarrasing
> > part was probably inadvertently involving a Jewish
> photographer in the
> > picture shoot after being supportive of the Nazi
> party.
> >
> > I also wonder if the Theodore/Rolleiflex T
> incident really resulted in
> > the
> > man being fired or if his sudden departure was
> unrelated.
> >
> > Jeffery Smith
> > New Orleans, LA
> > http://www.400tx.com
> > http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Carlos Manuel 
> > Freaza
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:58 PM
> > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The
> History by Ian Parker
> >
> >
> > Prochnow tells that story maybe a bit different,
> he
> > mentions Ian Parker's book "Rollei TLR-The
> history".
> > F&H was working on the 9x9 third protoype, they
> did
> > only fourteen of these prototypes from hand-made
> > parts. The first prototype went to the
> photographer
> > Salomon Kahn who used it to photograph Adolf
> Hitler.
> > Kahn exhibited these photographs taken with the
> 9x9
> > prototype successfully, however the photographs
> > started to disappear when it became known that
> Kahn
> > was a jew, he soon died in a concentration camp,
> but
> > it was a Gestapo action, it was not F&H action.
> > F&H began to develop larger format cameras on 1930
> > before the nazi era with the 7x9 prototype.-
> >
> > All the best
> > Carlos
> >  --- Jeffery Smith <jls@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> >
> >> Rollei TLR: The History : The Complete Book on
> the
> >> Origins of Twin-Lens
> >> Photography
> >> by Ian Parker
> >>
> >> The black eye:  When Rollei was working on the
> >> prototypes for a 9x9 studio
> >> camera, a rather pro-Nazi Rolleiflex had a
> >> professional photographer take
> >> Hitler's portrait with one of them for use in
> >> creating some postage stamps
> >> wit the Fuhrer's likeness. When it was discovered
> >> that the photographer was
> >> Jewish, everyone panicked, the photographer was
> >> later carted off, and the
> >> studio camera project was scuttled.
> >>
> >> Jeffery Smith
> >> New Orleans, LA
> >> http://www.400tx.com
> >> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Douglas Nygren
> >> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:56 PM
> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The
> History
> >> by Ian Parker
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for the overview. What is the name of
> the
> >> book and the
> >> author's full name?
> >>
> >> What was the black eye?
> >> Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's a history of how Rollei got started up at
> the
> >> turn of the 20th
> >>> century
> >>> by Franke & Heidecke, their initial product line
> >> (stereo cameras) and
> >>> then
> >>> the subsequent history of their TLRs (through
> both
> >> wars). It's a fairly
> >>> quick read, but gives you some sort of insight
> >> into how large the
> >>> company
> >>> grew, when it reached its pinnacle, and how the
> >> SLR ultimately brought
> >>> it
> >>> down. A nice overview of the company's history
> >> with only one
> >>> unfortunately
> >>> "black eye" that occurred around WWII.
> >>>
> >>> Jeffery Smith
> >>> New Orleans, LA
> >>> http://www.400tx.com
> >>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >>> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Douglas Nygren
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:16 PM
> >>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The
> >> History by Ian Parker
> >>>
> >>>
> 
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