Sake or sake?? (sorry for the bad pun) John --- Jeffery Smith <jls@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Parker's exact wording is "The firm Franke & > Heidecke were ardent and proud > supporters of Hitler's National Socialist Party and > I would quickly hasten > to add that many other German industrialists also > supported Hitler, and with > large sums of money." > > One fellow from the LUG asked me how I could > possible listen to music > conducted by Herbert Von Karajan as he was not > opposed to Hitler. I suppose > that it is the same reason why I drive Japanese > cars. I'm not buying them > for Japan's sake. I'm buying them for my sake. > > Jeffery Smith > New Orleans, LA > http://www.400tx.com > http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Douglas Nygren > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:14 PM > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History > by Ian Parker > > > One more question: who you mention "after being > supportive of the Nazi > party." Who was? When? > > There were lots of Nazis, but not everyone was. > There are lots of > Americans who support the war in Iraq, but not > everyone does. One has > be to exact here. Leica apparently wasn't a big > follower, though I > haven't studied this thoroughly. It would seem > Bechstein lost their > factory as a result of the Nazis. They never were > the same after the > war. > > Doug > > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > > > No, it wasn't a matter of F&H turning him in. Soon > after the incident > > he > > disappeared with other Jews to a concentration > camp. I think the > > embarrasing > > part was probably inadvertently involving a Jewish > photographer in the > > picture shoot after being supportive of the Nazi > party. > > > > I also wonder if the Theodore/Rolleiflex T > incident really resulted in > > the > > man being fired or if his sudden departure was > unrelated. > > > > Jeffery Smith > > New Orleans, LA > > http://www.400tx.com > > http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Carlos Manuel > > Freaza > > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:58 PM > > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The > History by Ian Parker > > > > > > Prochnow tells that story maybe a bit different, > he > > mentions Ian Parker's book "Rollei TLR-The > history". > > F&H was working on the 9x9 third protoype, they > did > > only fourteen of these prototypes from hand-made > > parts. The first prototype went to the > photographer > > Salomon Kahn who used it to photograph Adolf > Hitler. > > Kahn exhibited these photographs taken with the > 9x9 > > prototype successfully, however the photographs > > started to disappear when it became known that > Kahn > > was a jew, he soon died in a concentration camp, > but > > it was a Gestapo action, it was not F&H action. > > F&H began to develop larger format cameras on 1930 > > before the nazi era with the 7x9 prototype.- > > > > All the best > > Carlos > > --- Jeffery Smith <jls@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > > > >> Rollei TLR: The History : The Complete Book on > the > >> Origins of Twin-Lens > >> Photography > >> by Ian Parker > >> > >> The black eye: When Rollei was working on the > >> prototypes for a 9x9 studio > >> camera, a rather pro-Nazi Rolleiflex had a > >> professional photographer take > >> Hitler's portrait with one of them for use in > >> creating some postage stamps > >> wit the Fuhrer's likeness. When it was discovered > >> that the photographer was > >> Jewish, everyone panicked, the photographer was > >> later carted off, and the > >> studio camera project was scuttled. > >> > >> Jeffery Smith > >> New Orleans, LA > >> http://www.400tx.com > >> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Douglas Nygren > >> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:56 PM > >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The > History > >> by Ian Parker > >> > >> > >> Thank you for the overview. What is the name of > the > >> book and the > >> author's full name? > >> > >> What was the black eye? > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > >> > >>> It's a history of how Rollei got started up at > the > >> turn of the 20th > >>> century > >>> by Franke & Heidecke, their initial product line > >> (stereo cameras) and > >>> then > >>> the subsequent history of their TLRs (through > both > >> wars). It's a fairly > >>> quick read, but gives you some sort of insight > >> into how large the > >>> company > >>> grew, when it reached its pinnacle, and how the > >> SLR ultimately brought > >>> it > >>> down. A nice overview of the company's history > >> with only one > >>> unfortunately > >>> "black eye" that occurred around WWII. > >>> > >>> Jeffery Smith > >>> New Orleans, LA > >>> http://www.400tx.com > >>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >> Behalf Of Douglas Nygren > >>> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:16 PM > >>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The > >> History by Ian Parker > >>> > >>> > === message truncated === --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list