[roc-chat] Re: Separate LPR area at ROCtober
- From: Richard Dierking <richard.dierking@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:56:29 -0700
I proposed using timers for the PM several years ago, and even determined a
source for the timers that Starbuck's uses. Hum, what ever happened to that
proposal?
Richard Dierking
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On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Michael Klett <xsive.guy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How about copying what Starbucks does to make sure that old coffee is
> not served...
>
> Set up a board with the pads and put a timer on the board for each
> bank. As soon as the first rocket goes on a pad on the bank the timer
> is started. When the bank is launched the timer is cleared. The Pad
> Manager / LCO always choose the bank with the oldest time on it. And
> if there is more than one bank with say 15 minutes (or some other
> arbitrary time) showing then it's a signal that they need to speed
> things up.
>
> Perhaps another addition to that idea is that when a bank has hit 5
> minutes on the timer the Pad Manager can't put any more rockets on it
> and has to start loading the next bank so that it can be cycled.
>
> Of course, these times are pulled out of the air and probably would
> need to be tuned but think about the concept. Of course, for safety
> reasons, distances would need to be considered so that any bank not
> being launched could be open for loading. If that's not the case then
> the algorithm probably wouldn't work.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:49 AM, David Erbas-White
> <derbas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 6/26/2012 9:23 AM, Richard Dierking wrote:
>>
>> NO!
>>
>> There are plenty of times when even six pads aren't enough. The problem
>> isn't that there are too many pads waiting to be filled, it's a management
>> issue (time/pad management). It's the problem of not cycling pads, even if
>> a bank only has one rocket.
>>
>> I had proposed some kind of chart last year, with a pointer, that could
>> simply have the hand rotated or some such to show which banks were coming up
>> next, but it was noted as 'too much additional work' to try and show pad
>> order.
>>
>> I don't have the ultimate solution, but the BASELINE PROBLEM is that any
>> bank with a rocket on it should be fired in rotation with all other banks.
>>
>> Here's one other possible solution/proposal -- have a little box attached to
>> the controller that would track which banks haven't been flown (this would
>> be 'reset' or 'changed' by detecting the arming switch for the bank being
>> thrown). It could then show something like the order of the next upcoming
>> three banks, thus 'reminding' the LCO what's up next.
>>
>> I'm sure that others have simple, non-intrusive methods that we can come up
>> with -- but the bottom line issue is that the first person to put a rocket
>> on a bank should NOT have to be waiting half-an-hour for their rocket to
>> launch.
>>
>> David Erbas-White
>>
>>
>>> Just a thought; do you think setting up 4 pads per bank instead of the
>>> normal 6 would help?
>>> Richard Dierking
>>>
>>
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