[roc-chat] Re: Separate LPR area at ROCtober
- From: Kenneth Brown <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:00:07 -0700
Thanks D,
I agree that the pad manager job is the keystone. LCO duty is pretty easy and
can be learned in a couple of minutes, but the PM, having to juggle several
tasks at once, is much more difficult which makes it hard to just drop in a
volunteer to sink or swim.
Allen had some valid points that it was hard to get more then just the regular
volunteers to work a shift. I thought a bit on his comment about not being able
to even get LPR pad helpers. ROC launches can be pretty intimidating to
somebody that has been around them. I bet some people that would be good at
helping out are just a bit frightened. That's why I asked about written job
descriptions. Maybe if we had some printed info sheets outlining the job, more
people would have the confidence to help out with a shift of two. It would be
good experience for scout leaders and teachers that want conduct a small launch
of their own.
Ken Brown
Sorry, I haven't looked at the recent post after I sent out all of my pissing
and moaning. I'm up in Seattle and Wi-Fi is hit and miss. Back soon.
On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:42 AM, David Reese wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:04:24 -0700, Kenneth Brown <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I hope that there will be some more ideas on streamlining the launch
>> process. We can refine as we go along, but not getting something in place is
>> criminal.
>
>
> This.
>
> Wait times have *always* been an issue at ROCStock. Coordination between PM
> and LCO is the greatest challenge; at RS last month, there was a period when
> rockets (none of which were mine) had been sitting on the range for upwards
> of a half hour, and I got peeved enough that I went up, bumped the existing
> pad manager from their position, and started feeding cards to the LCO. We had
> the range cleared in <10 minutes.
>
> I think the issue here might be one of pad organization. Launches that I've
> attended with extraordinarily high throughput lay out the range using a
> bank/pad method (e.g., A1-8 is front row left, B1-8 is front row right, C1-8
> is middle row left, D1-8 is middle row right). This seemed to help keep the
> pad manager's mental process clearer - to launch the right bank, rather than
> grabbing the cards for pads 9-16 and 25-32, they know to grab all the cards
> for banks B and D and feed them to the LCO. It also seemed easier for the LCO
> to remember which banks were closed and open, thus preventing pad helpers
> from running people out to a bank that's been waiting for a while.
>
> On the training issue, this is probably a bit much, but MDRA does videos to
> help train pad managers and RSOs:
> http://www.mdrocketry.org/membership/howto/#PMRSO Their process is a little
> different than ours, but having training aids like this would dramatically
> help speed up the process, I think.
>
> D
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